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To: Brinks who wrote (20072)11/16/2004 12:26:54 AM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78648
 
regarding: "BTW there is only about 20 net-nets now. There are other places on the internet that follow these from time to time."

If you can provide any further info. here, I'd be interested.
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There are several ways to look at net-nets.

I believe - but I cannot verify this - that Dr. Graham's net-nets would all be of profitable companies. The examples in Intelligent Investor were all of profitable companies. But this was not explicitly stated as a requirement.

The Jim Clarke approach where the underlying business of the net-net is evaluated. (including but not limited to profitablity) This may be your method as well. It's a further screen after the net-net screen.

The, ahem, Paul Senior approach. Just give me a list of net-nets and I'll pick a mostly random sample. (I learned from SINA that I don't judge very well. I dismissed that net-net and it subsequently went up - without me - maybe 50x). I'd be looking to buy roughly 2/3 of net-net price. Violating my preference for not judging and violating my preference for 2/3 -- because I can't find any that I don't already own that are like that - I've been slowly accumulating FAVS, where I estimate net-net for this unprofitable cigar butt to be $4.5/sh. vs. stock price of $3.65

finance.yahoo.com

All the net-nets I've bought have eventually worked out. Although some took a LOT longer to move up than I had patience to hold on for. Also, if one calculates the time value of money on some of my net-nets, then although they may have moved up above my buy price, some really haven't been "profitable" because I had to hold them so long.

I'm holding about five below-cash plays now. None has done well this year, and the managements of several have further frittered away cash which has reduced my margin of safety.