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To: LindyBill who wrote (86642)	11/17/2004 1:29:41 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793838

Sullivan - A KILLING IN FALLUJA I: The video is grim enough; and if the marine in question is found guilty of violating rules of conduct, then he should face punishment. But I have to say I cannot stand in judgment of this young man, after what must have been brutal, terrifying days of urban conflict. This is surely what they call "what happens in wartime." It may not be morally defensible; but it is psychologically understandable. Frankly, I'm grateful for what this man, half my age, is doing with his fellows in unspeakably terrifying circumstances. Compare his action with Abu Ghraib, and you can see the difference. One a snap judgment in a furious battle context; the other a pre-meditated example of abuse and murder of prisoners in U.S. custody. A KILLING IN FALLUJA II: From the Times of London, which has just, long after intense lobbying from yours truly, put all its content online for free: In the south of Fallujah yesterday, US Marines found the armless, legless body of a blonde woman, her throat slashed and her entrails cut out. Benjamin Finnell, a hospital apprentice with the US Navy Corps, said that she had been dead for a while, but at that location for only a day or two. The woman was wearing a blue dress; her face had been disfigured. It was unclear if the remains were the body of the Irish-born aid worker Margaret Hassan, 59, or of Teresa Borcz, 54, a Pole abducted two weeks ago. Both were married to Iraqis and held Iraqi citizenship; both were kidnapped in Baghdad last month. There you see the difference between the occasional horror of war and premeditated, conscious barbarism.

To: LindyBill who wrote (86642)	11/17/2004 3:09:33 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 793838

Lindy, King George II has a historic opportunity to really make things happen. He has the bit between his teeth, but I bet he'll pass up the opportunity to do what's really needed and like Carter and sidekick, followed by Raygun, will mess up on a grand scale [not that Bush and Clinton did any better]. Taming the UN and firing most of them and redesigning it now is an opportunity the USA will pass up at its peril. Will the USA learn the lessons of supporting the Mujahadeen which turned on them? I doubt it. We live in hope. Mqurice