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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (86679)	11/17/2004 11:00:01 AM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793717

Mary, I'm more concerned about the rejection of intellectual approaches. Not healthy, IMO. Karl Rove couldn't plan it any better. Democrats by their own admission appeal to the uneducated (non-HS graduates) and to the post-graduate set. Conveniently they do not differentiate on majors or types of degrees. Since you and Karen love to disparage the intellect of those you disagree with - let me fire back - Language and philosophy majors do not have a lock on 'intellectualism', but they might on pseudo-intellectualism :-) Now to cover their defeat Dems argue it must be an anti-intellectual reaction. Even if you buy this argument and believe the exit polls (that dogmatic Christians voted overwhelmingly Republican) disparaging this population is not a sound policy. Obviously they are becoming significant, but they are by no means even the majority of those who voted for Bush. By dismissing all Republican voters as rednecks, anti-intellectual Christians etc, the Dems further alienate the mainstream. And if we are talking about anti-intellectualism - please discuss the cognitive dissidence of the Dean/Moore factions of the Democrats. They are getting as far-out there as the black helicopter crowd. John

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (86679)	11/17/2004 11:03:43 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793717

They know exactly to the minute how and when the universe was created. They already know everything they need to know. Not exactly, Mary. Like the rest of us, they tend to separate the real world from "the invisible man in the sky." They use their metaphysical outlook, [God rules], in their Church activities, but they "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" on a lot of it. So their moral outlook on sex and abortion is very much in their thoughts when they deal with politics. But they don't insist on our leader being one of them on being "born again." It's nice, but not necessary. You will find that both Bush and Kerry spend a lot less time in Church now that the election is over.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (86679)	11/17/2004 11:18:38 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 793717

It's amazing how certain intolerant folks speak insist on speaking with faux authority about things they have no basic understand of.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (86679)	11/17/2004 11:32:56 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 793717

There, that accounts for at least 52% of the population. I think that is a leap, and not a very helpful one. The anti-intellectual thread is just that, a thread. There are lots of threads running through various elements of society. That is just one. Denying the existence of that thread IMO is part of the lack of introspection that characterizes anti-intellectualism. And part of it is surely defensiveness. Attributing what is just a thread to the entire population of Bush voters, which is what I assume you meant by 52% of the population, is no more valid than denial. And it is unhelpful because it causes a defensive reaction that is further unhelpful. Even as I am very careful to not so generalize, based on the reactions to my, folks are taking it that way. It's not possible to address an issue when it be discussed impersonally. Perhaps it couldn't be discussed impersonally in any case, but explicit overgeneralization is surely best avoided.