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To: one_less who wrote (88697)11/18/2004 1:13:34 PM
From: Poet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
i am not going to get any more involved in this discussion

you know how i feel

and i respect grainne's wishes

we're on her thread, after all



To: one_less who wrote (88697)11/18/2004 4:10:08 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Jewel, what I said was not a snipe at you, or anyone else. I cannot believe, when I read your posts, that we inhabit the same planet (and that's not a snipe, I just don't see the world the same way- that's all there is to it). You may not believe me, and I can't control how you interpret my words, but when I read Grainne's posts, I thought back to discussions we had years ago, before I met you, or anyone else here right now (that I can remember anyway), that dealt with this very same topic- I did not think about people, except Grainne, who I know was here, because we always agreed on the tolerance stuff (I don't really remember who else was involved in the discussions, though Janice always was). I thought about content- quite frankly I am more focused on content than people most of the time. When you read something of mine, and think it is a snipe at you, it isn't- I'm not thinking about you, or trying to wound you in any way, except for the few times you have absolutely come out of left field to track me down somewhere to, quite frankly, be rather ugly to me. If I comment on behavior, I'm thinking about behavior mostly in depersonalized terms- why? Because that way I don't feel any rancor (or at least not very much) when I post, and I can clearly articulate rationals for things- even things that are clearly designed attempts to be hurtful to me, and which clearly stem from rancor and anger on the part of others. Why would people want to be rancorous and aggressive? Because it is exciting, it gets the adrenalin moving- why would I not want to join in? Because it isn't what I want to do anymore. If you choose to think the comments that I make relate to you, that is you thinking you are the focus, it is not me making you the focus, or making me the focus, for that matter. Though I do try to practice what I preach, as my practice and preaching evolves.

So, if you can, try to accept that my posts are not aimed at you, not even a little bit. If you choose to find them personalized, it is you who are making them personal, and not me.

I will not discuss this, because it is,imo, one of those non-discussable things- relating to a core view of the world, and it isn't open to discussion. What I have said is the truth of my posting in terms of what I think when I post- as such I am the only one to know the truth of that, and as such it is not a subject open to discussion with you (imo, of course).

Good luck with your life, and may you have health and happiness.



To: one_less who wrote (88697)11/19/2004 2:24:33 AM
From: Grainne  Respond to of 108807
 
X was not taking snipes at others--if X does I would be forced to ban her, as well, because we ARE going to have a fresh start here and talk about issues and ideas and Hugh Grant and whatever and not other posters and ancient history. All of this is totally voluntary--no one has to post here!

It was reasonable for you to write a post to me about your feelings, and you did, and you also had the option of private messaging me, which you didn't do. But trying to relive the past and get everyone all riled up by writing additional posts about X is not permitted because you were attacking her personally at that point, and I was very clear about that not being acceptable here, so regrettably I have to ban you. Attacking me personally as well really didn't help your situation.

As I pointed out when this happened with Laz, there are all sorts of places to hang out at SI where you might be happier, and you can ban everyone who you don't like. Everyone has the same opportunities here; it is very democratic.