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To: sylvester80 who wrote (67310)	11/19/2004 5:21:38 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Sir, Yes, Sir, we have no wounded to report, Sir! From www.GregPalast.com: Falluja Arithmetic Lesson by Prof. Greg Palast Monday's New York Times, page 1: "American commanders said 38 service members had been killed and 275 wounded in the Falluja assault." Monday's New York Times, page 11: "The American military hospital here reported that it had treated 419 American soldiers since the siege of Falluja began." Questions for the class: 1. If 275 soldiers were wounded in Falluja and 419 are treated for wounds, how many were shot on the plane ride to Germany? 2. We're told only 275 soldiers were wounded but 419 treated for wounds; and we're told that 38 soldiers died. So how many will be buried? 3. How long have these Times reporters been embedded with with military? Bonus question: When will they get out of bed with the military? Monday's New York Times, page 1: "The commanders estimated that 1,200 to 1,600 insurgents had been killed." Monday's New York Times, page 11: "Nowhere to be found: the remains of the insurgents that the tanks had been sent in to destroy. ...The absence of insurgent bodies in Falluja has remained an enduring mystery." NOT in the New York Times: "Every time I hear the news That old feeling comes back on; We're waist deep in the Big Muddy And the Big Fool says to push on." - Pete Seeger, 1967 *** Curiouser and Curiouser....

To: sylvester80 who wrote (67310)	11/19/2004 1:20:50 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

It is true that many of the on- air personalities are moderate or conservative, and that editorializing tends to be pro- Administration. But what I said is true, they have plenty of commentators, some under contract, who are Democrats or perhaps further to the Left. The Washington editor of the Nation, David Korn, is a regular contributor, for example. Susan Estrich appears regularly. Terry MacAuliffe was a frequent guest in the past year. It is not really a propaganda machine, there is too much balance to quite say that.........