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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (67311)	11/18/2004 11:24:35 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

Americans are kidnapped left and right. They will be executed. Bush and Blair simply don't care. Kill 'em, they chide. Americans will not be safe anywhere, and things will only get worse. Optimists think the psychotic Neocon agenda has peaked. I had hoped so too, that bush would be gone by now. I think those traitorous, murdering Necons are just getting started. Everyone has to start fighting them. The true conservatives have to wake up and fight back. And the left will join to push them off a cliff. This country will most certainly be attacked before bush is out of office. "The Americans have opened the gates of hell, the Battle of Fallujah is the beginning of other battles." He noted that, "We still have our strength, our force and ammunition, and the battle is long, very long. And we will turn Iraq into one big Fallujah." "It is only the beginning, from a military point of view," said al-Janabi. "We have succeeded in drawing them into the quagmire of Fallujah, into the alleys and small pathways. They have fallen into the trap of explosive charges, land mines and, now, the defenders, short supply lines inside the neighborhoods." "The cause will not die if the individuals die," al-Janabi said. "It will survive until the last Iraqi holy warrior dies or runs out of bullets." He added, "If the military leaders agree on another area where we will inflict more losses on them, then we will." Al-Janabi mocked the statement of Qasim Dawud, a senior Iraqi puppet official who on Saturday told reporters that al-Janabi and another Mujahideen, Umar Hadid, were "cowards" who had fled the city before the offensive. The Washington Post described Hadid as a ranking figure in the group now known as al-Qaeda in Iraq, which it said is headed by the Jordanian militant Abu Mus'ab az-Zarqawi, whom the US government frequently blamed for virtually all the Mujahideen activity in the country. "I am here," al-Janabi said. "You can see me. And if you wait for a while, you can see Umar Hadid. He is still in the city," he said according to the Washington Post report. Army Of Muhammad Pledge To Execute American Prisoners In a dispatch posted at 6:50pm Mecca time Wednesday Mafkarat al-Islam posted a communiqué issued by the command of the Army of Muhammad in which the organization pledged to kill what it called the 'pharaohs of Iraq' in reference to the likes of US installed puppet prime-minister Iyyad Allawi, Qasim Dawud, Salah an-Naqib, and Hazim ash-Shalan and pledging also to kill the American prisoners they are holding. The Army of Muhammad pledged in its communiqué to pursue the US military everywhere in Iraq and to take their operations into the heart of Baghdad after Fallujah, a battle that had pulled off masks that had not been expected. The communiqué said that Fallujah was the first real battle in Iraq and that the number of fighters was growing - where there had been ten there were now a hundred, where there were a hundred there are now a thousand. The communiqué said that the organization would be publicly slitting the throats of the American troops it holds captive. Earlier the Army of Muhammad issued statements quoted by satellite TV networks, saying that it had captured a number of US prisoners. Mafkarat al-Islam has also reported that the Mujahideen in Fallujah is holding a number of US and British prisoners. A film of 36 American prisoners was turned over to al-Jazeera and al-Arabiyah satellite TV companies, who refused to broadcast it. The US has so far refused to acknowledge that the Mujahideen in Fallujah holds American prisoners. According to a report issued by the Advisory Council of Fallujah Mujahideen, there are currently 136 Americans, 15 Brits and 123 Allawi Army prisoners of war. www.rense.com

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (67311)	11/19/2004 12:24:33 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

"Recently one of our local Western wear stores prominently featured women's sweaters in their display windows. In crewelwork on the bosoms of the sweaters was the word "CRUEL"." A couple of weeks ago, there were a bunch of people running around town with T-shirts that said "Vote or Die". What the heck's that all about? LOL. Conspiracies in clothing now, Ray-man? Hey, is this you? Duray is one of them. When asked about war, his eyes narrow and fix intently behind his plastic framed glasses. A media cabal in bed with the government, said Duray, has failed to report the real facts about the politics of the war. His cheeks go flush and begin twitch as he expounds on NBC's relationship with its parent company General Electric, a dominant player in the defense industry. "It's astonishing what's not in the major dailies across the country," he said, before launching into an impromptu quiz on media ownership directed at a reporter. A few feet away, sat Pam McGurn with her husband Dave. McGurn, a 49-year-old advocate for the mentally ill, said ... Hey, kind of an ironic transition the writer made there, huh? headlines.bendbulletin.com