To: longnshort who wrote (88822 ) 11/19/2004 3:28:13 PM From: epicure Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807 I think you thought I meant people who go to the very top schools are all smart; I did not say that, nor even imply it. I do think that, in general, they probably have better grades and test scores. I went to Berkeley law- and the folks I met there were much more impressive (in terms of grades and academic accomplishment) than the folks I routinely met at CSUF - where I recived my undergraduate degree. The very top schools take the very best students from all the colleges in the nation, at the graduate level- but at the undergraduate level they also take some really mediocre legacies, and at the lower echelon schools there are bound to be brilliant students- though obviously not as many, because those schools can't afford to refuse as many students. I don't think anyone can argue that the top schools are not impressive on a resume- which was really my point, but after you get past the really impressive ones, which really spice up a resume (Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Berkeley) I'm not sure it really matters where you go- and with that I was merely speaking to the argument going on here about which schools are "worthy" of being proud of. I just don't think it matters. I actually got an amazing education at CSUF. I can't praise my professors highly enough, and because I wasn't taught by graduate students I got to spend a lot of time working with all my professors on original research- and this was as an undergraduate. Obviously, my opinion is colored substantially by my experience. I can't get away from that. I hope that makes what I was saying more clear. It was more about perception of the degree, and the pool of applicants, than any guarantee that a particular representative of a top school would be brilliant- and school brilliance has not as much to do with work brilliance as we could wish it would, anyway.