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To: i-node who wrote (212170)	11/21/2004 6:02:10 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578494

- Saddam was killing 5,000 people a month by virtue of outright murder and allowing his people to starve and die from lack of neccessary medical treatment. Of course our staunch support of sanctions had no role in that... - They were shooting at our planes patrolling the no-fly zone. An arbitrary action by the US and UK, w/o UN backing. - They had refused to allow weapons inspections to continue, in direct violation of a ceasefire agreement. A cheney style falsehood...UNMOVIC inspectors had to be evacuated just as Iraq was destroying what little was left of unconventional weapons. - There was SOME terrorist training going on with Iraq government support within Iraq Another cheney falsehood... - They were paying the families of Palestinian terrorists So are Saudis...when do we invade them? - The man was a brutal dictator who had killed hundreds of thousands of people over the years. Many with with uncoventional weapons provided by the reagan administration - There was every indication he would be succeeded by even worse. You mean like we have in the US nowadays? Any one of these, taken alone, would be sufficient reason to go to war against Iraq. But the one reason that is more important than any other? - Because removing Saddam can be part of a solution to the problem of anti-Americanism in the Middle East. In fact it is the cause of unprecedented anti-americanism, not only around the ME but the world. The upside logic of a typical supremacist right winger. Al

To: i-node who wrote (212170)	11/24/2004 1:47:22 AM
From: beach_bum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578494

"The only one there is any doubt about is WMD, and I think everyone realizes the WMD programs were in place and would have been a problem at some future date" any doubt about WMD ? Seems like your genetic makeup doesn't allow you to acknowledge what is proven : that there are no WMD in iraq - no buts in it. Maybe it is analogous to when you said that "Some" iraqi civilians were dead in the war. This was (almost) the ONLY reason given before the war - That Iraq has WMD and the Iraqi threat is imminent. Show me the link to all the other reason before the iraq war, and i'll show you 5 more link to the WMD reason. "we obviously should have gone back to war against Iraq in 1998, but we had a president who was motivated solely by politics and couldn't bring himself to act decicively" Clintons fault for not attacking Saddam and not father Bush for not ousting him after the 1991 war ? Why not blame Carter and Kennedy too, while you are at it. "Any one of these, taken alone, would be sufficient reason to go to war against Iraq." You guys like war. dont you ? You are so quick to find a reason to get into one and so good at rationalising it. You pretend to love america, but hate humanity. "It really doesn't matter that Saddam was not involved in 9/11. The question is whether his removal can prevent future 9/11s, and clearly it can. That's really all we need to know. The president's most important job is to protect Americans." But he failed at that. His removal has already created Sept 11, Episode II after we ousted Saddam. 1300+ americans dead, 10000+ injured, 50k+ probably severely psychologically devasted for life, 50000-100000k+iraqi civilians dead, cost of $200B + already. This is equal or worse than orininal Sept 11 already and Bin Laden is still alive ready for further episodes along with Bush and Co. Wake up from your delusions. This is a disaster all the way. Bum.