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To: Michael Watkins who wrote (152243)11/21/2004 5:17:37 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
Oh, I can see both sides all right. It's just you who are so ignorant of history that you see everything into mush-headed equalivances that don't exist in reality, and talk about Sadat's "moderating process" during the 1970s.

The hard-line on both sides has for too long held control. After all, it was a Jewish fundamentalist-extremist, Yigal Amir, that killed Rabin, not an Arab or Muslim. It was Muslim fundamentalist-extremists that killed Sadat.


Rabin was killed by a Jewish extemist? So Israel = the Arabs?

Since Rabin was killed, Perez (dove), Netanyahu (hawk), Barak (dove) and Sharon (hawk) have been Israeli Prime Ministers. Problem was, on the Palestinian side there was only Arafat, for whom the "peace process" was a ruse from day one. After Arafat turned down 95% of the territories and began the Terror War as his counter offer, nearly all the Israeli saw Oslo for the ruse it was, and backed Sharon. Arafat wanted the armed struggle, and that's what he got. Now Arafat has left chaos behind him. The Israelis still have a democracy. Are you able to discern a difference there?

Of course, since Sadat was killed, his Vice President made himself President for life, this being the way Arabs do things.



To: Michael Watkins who wrote (152243)11/21/2004 5:21:55 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Powell takes genteel America with him

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By Mary Dejevsky
This article was originally published on page 14 of Sunday Independent on November 21, 2004

The world thought Bush must have a more sophisticated side if he had chosen Powell to manage diplomacy. Now Powell has gone, and his replacement Condoleezza Rice's feel for the broader issues is in question.

The cheerleaders in Washington who claimed that the arrival of Condoleezza Rice at the United States state department would make no difference may be right in terms of US foreign policy. In terms of the impact of her appointment on Europe, their reassurance could not be more wrong.

For much of the past four years, we have had the luxury of being able to delude ourselves about President George Bush and his intentions towards the world. We were able to do that largely because of the face of genial moderation presented by Colin Powell, the former secretary of state. Powell spoke in language and concepts that were familiar. In manner, he was debonair, cosmopolitan, a man of the world. You could, as it is said, take him anywhere.

Which is exactly what Bush did. Whenever it was in his interests to project a kinder, gentler, more reasonable America, he produced Powell. He used him during his first presidential campaign to exemplify his commitment to diversity, the meritocratic approach and "compassionate conservatism". Powell's military credentials as a much-decorated soldier and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff during the 1991 Gulf War helped to fill a blank in Bush's CV: his dubious military service.

At the state department, Powell's appointment was hugely popular. Upbeat, reliable and disciplined in the way of a retired military man, he initially brought a sense of optimism and stability to a ship that
in his predecessor Madeleine Albright's last months had started to leak and list. Abroad, there were sighs of relief. We persuaded ourselves that Bush must have a softer, more sophisticated side to him if he had chosen Powell to manage "abroad". Powell may even have -harboured such hopes himself.

This was wishful thinking. It is now hard to escape the conclusion that Bush cynically exploited Powell's good offices, while progressively side-lining him from the decisions that mattered - and that Powell allowed himself to be manipulated. Whatever the moment at which their ways parted, however, the nadir for Powell must surely be the day when he appeared at the United Nations as the front man for the Pentagon to present the administration's case for the Iraq war. His task was to demonstrate, using CIA satellite pictures and other intelligence data, that Iraq was in breach of the crucial security council resolution, 1441. He was chosen over the US ambassador to the UN and the defence secretary because he was trusted around the world.

When it transpired that Iraq had no banned weapons after all, Powell admitted that the information he had presented had been erroneous; he had merely passed on what he had been told. Even more disappointing than this admission was his failure to draw the honourable conclusion and resign. In the US context, it was understandable: he chose not to precipitate a cabinet crisis at a time of war when Bush was campaigning for re-election. But it destroyed whatever shreds of credibility still remained to him abroad.

Many of the foreign tributes paid to Powell when he announced his departure cited his understanding of other countries. His sympathy was not to be doubted. Where he signally failed, more and more egregiously, was in communicating his understanding back to the administration and making his voice heard.

This, at least, should not be a difficulty for his successor, assuming that her nomination is confirmed. Where Bush's first-term administration owed much to appointments made by his father eight years before, especially in foreign policy and security, the new administration is shaping up as his own. Bush also seems to have weaned himself off his management-school technique of encouraging open disagreement among powerful individuals before making his decisions. His new cabinet looks likely to be more cohesive than his first. Those who have spoken of continuity rather than revolution or even evolution between Bush's two terms may well be right.

From the European perspective, however, continuity is precisely what is of concern: it means Europe will have to confront the reality of Bush's policies and digest the implications. We will no longer be able to equivocate, citing what we have been told by that nice Mr Powell or presumed divisions within the administration. There will be no excuses.

Continuity does not necessarily mean the next Bush administration will embark on more foreign military adventures in the name of freedom and democracy as defined by the US. It does mean, however, that a conservative ideology that is alien to many of us - and professed with missionary zeal - will feature prominently in US policy-making and that a no-holds-barred "war on terrorism" will still head US priorities.

With Rice's transfer to the state department, continuity entails other possibilities as well. The announcement of her nomination was accompanied by remarkably uniform tributes to her quick, analytical and systematic mind. Her scholarly competence is not doubted. Nor is her loyalty to Bush, whose view of the world she well knows and has helped to form. There are, however, real questions surrounding her administrative ability, her awareness of the sensibilities of others and her "feel" for the broader issues.

Her time as provost of Stanford University was not without controversy. As national security adviser, she appeared unable to prevail against the competing wills of the defence secretary, the chiefs of staff and Powell. She was finally given charge of the whole Iraq portfolio to stop the quarrelling. Her months in charge have coincided with intensified military operations, confusion over the authority of the interim Iraqi leadership and the revelation of abuses at Abu Ghraib prison. She has a reputation for being calm under pressure, but also for formulaic thinking, short on foresight and imagination.

In a lecture in London last year, she gave an authoritative account of the thinking behind the Bush foreign policy. Yet many aspects were disturbing, not least the highly dogmatic approach she took to contentious foreign policy issues, such as the pre-emptive use of force and the spread of democracy on the US model, and the sharpness with which she responded to even mildly dissenting views. If Rice consents to debate, she expects only to win.

It is possible, of course, that as head of US diplomacy, Rice will moderate the absolutist language in which she tends to express her views and turn out to be more of a pragmatist than an ideologue.

She is not, and never has been, in the vanguard of neo-conservatives. Far more likely, though, is that the foreign policy strategist we glimpsed in London is the one we will get.

If this shatters the illusion, so amiably fostered by Powell, that the Bush view of the world is not so different from ours, perhaps that is for the best. Realism is the only basis on which broken diplomacy can start to mend. - Foreign Service

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