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To: RealMuLan who wrote (56245)11/21/2004 6:05:13 PM
From: RealMuLan  Respond to of 74559
 
A New Look at American Relations With Iran
Written by Noel Sheppard
Saturday, November 20, 2004

Iran, Great Britain, France, and Germany agreed in principle this Sunday to a nuclear non-proliferation pact that might dramatically change the complexion of the Middle East as well as the War on Terror for decades to come.

Certainly, there are issues yet to be ironed out, and the whole package is contingent somewhat upon American approval and involvement. However, Iran has temporarily accepted a list of requests by the European Union that include a continued suspension of all uranium enrichment and reprocessing activities. Iran has also agreed to restrictions concerning the production and purchase of centrifuges, plutonium separation, and the construction of facilities for such a purpose. In addition, the Iranians will permit verification of their compliance with these provisions via inspections performed by the IAEA. Finally, Iran has pledged as part of this agreement to not only assist in combating terrorism, but also to support the democratic process in Iraq.

Unfortunately, none of this means much until the United States and Iran sit down at the same table to open up for the first time a serious diplomatic dialogue. This might somewhat be complicated by the announcement of Colin Powell’s resignation as secretary of state, as well as that of Richard Armitage, the deputy secretary. Hopefully, this won’t become too large an issue in stalling the process.

To be sure, one needs to look at this occurrence with guarded optimism, but optimism nonetheless. This agreement could represent the beginning of a diplomatic process between the United States and Iran with a potential that is nothing less than awesome when viewed from both an international security perspective as well as an economic one. Serendipitously, a clever yet elegantly performed minuet between our two nations a few weeks prior might have adroitly set the wheels in motion for this outcome.
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chronwatch.com



To: RealMuLan who wrote (56245)11/21/2004 9:07:22 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 74559
 
<But Li said he dislikes Japan because of the history he has been taught since childhood - never to forget the national shame of Japan's brutal occupation during World War II.

Similarly, Sheng Liang, another rich youth working in a Japanese company in Beijing, said: ``I think I am a rational person. But if you want me to become fond of Japan, I just cannot make myself do it, although I'm now working in a Japanese firm.

``Although I also have some Japanese friends, whenever I have contact with a Japanese, I always feel there is an estrangement between us because of the historical shadow
.'
>

Stupid and racist Little Emperors. What about Tibet and the carnage there to assert control? How many died in Mao's maelstrom? They came for Jay Chen's father, injured Chairman Deng's son and conducted untold carnage. Even now, they are planning bulk murder in Taiwan. It's time to get over WWII and the decades before it, not to mention Mao's mess.

The Japanese who invaded China are nearly all dead - 1940 was 64 years ago, so they would be no younger than 84, but since the invasion of China was before 1940, they are older than that. The Japanese who racist Sheng Liang is talking about had nothing to do with it.

If we need to worry about anyone it's the Little Chinese Emperors who now think they are great and generally superior to everyone else. They will express megalomania and somebody is going to have to nip them in the bud since their indulgent parents haven't done it. Yiwu the Mad is a fine example of the arrogance.

Hopefully it will be Hu Jintao who keeps them tame, but it might have to be USA military might if Hu turns out to have a propensity for megalomania himself, which might be the case, though he seems a bit old for that, and smiles quite a bit as though he's happy. Megalomaniacs getting their own way are happy, so smiling and megalomania can be concurrent.

My uncle who spent years as a prisoner of war in Germany and was well aware of the horrors perpetrated by Japan's military would never buy Japanese and never forgave their cruelties. He died last year aged 93. His cousin married a Japanese woman after the occupation [he was in Japan as an occupier]. His grandnephew is now living and working in Japan.

Carrying on vendettas down the generations is pointless and destructive.

I have no problem with Japan, or Germany, or Germans, or Japanese, or Chinese, though they contributed to damaging my parents' lives and caused me to be a refugee descendant. We can't wind the clock back to 1870 when the Prussians marauded through Cornimont and laid siege to Paris. We can't undo the massacres of WWI. My father, his cousin and brother in law, all now dead, can't regain their lost years, maltreatment and problems of WWI and WWII. I can't reclaim property in China or France stolen from my ancestors, or sue for damages on their behalf.

Life until the 20th century was a dog eat dog business, nearly universally. It still is to a large extent and will remain so until the UN is reconstituted to stabilize geopolitical relations, and people like Yiwu the Mad stop thinking they can take over Taiwan by way of hideous violence.

It's time to move on.

Japan is better than China these days. A LOT better! A much more pleasant, honest and decent place [not to mention all the materialistic aspects]. China should look into its heart for improvement and not point the finger outside. There are more than enough ugly attributes in China to keep them busy for a longggg time.

Mqurice