To: Condor who wrote (56258 ) 11/22/2004 12:26:04 AM From: Taikun Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559 C, I am not sure we can have a rational conversation. You, like many of my Canadian friends, get so *emotional* it is hard to make progress. <That is what you are advocating anyhow isn't it?> If you mean I advocate Canada's high personal income tax rate, double digit sales tax rates and monthly premiums on top of paying for coverage then, no? In WA state, where I live, the sales tax of 8.5% is half BC's. Ditto the BC income tax at most levels of income over the median WA state income. That means they have after-tax income left over to pay for healthcare, right? Canada's system is porkbarelling, plain and simple. You pay and pay again. <I expect and hope we won't participate in Star Wars and regarding Canada as a base for terrorists heading to the US two observations come to mind. No.1 The US trained the terrorists in the US re 911. No.2 Canada's defense should be attended to by the US because it is no surprise that any military concerns we have are a result of our affiliation with American Foreign Policy.> More denial, as I expected. Lets get this straight, Canada wants to subsidize softwood lumber (hey, everyone does it-subsidies- but Canada expects to get away with it) and then have the US pay for defense. See, my example of Canada being like France was right on. <who cares> Of course, you don't. We were talking about economics in Canada and you make a housing selloff in a tourism area hit by the rising Loonie a non-issue, and you call that strength? <Pulp mills are and have shut down primaily due to the tariffs imposed by the US on CDN softwood lumber.> Wrong. The mill in Port Alice cited the Loonie. The tariffs have been in place longer than the Loonie has been over 75 cents. <my comments respect present day economical success> You mean like last week when the BOC got together with journalists on the economy to the journalists surprise the BOC was asking *them* what they were hearng about the Loonie's appreciation. Fear might be a better description of the BOC's views, not strength. "<rising economic soundness>-no you must be drunk Unnecessary and immature." "Are you delusional? Unnecessary and immature. " You accused me of using expletives, when I had not. You're the immature one. You are accusing me of using expletives when I am not. You ge what you deserve, buster. You lowered the level of the conversation first, not me, I'm meeting you on your level. And, you're welcome. "Yep, been here too long. You will be leaving for the US then? That is cute. I think not." I'm out of here at 9:30am tomorrow. "you on a tirade against your own government" Yes, I made some comments about the Canadian gov't, in response to a one-sided post by Kyros on Canada's debt reduction which ignored the damage to the system done by budget cuts. Message 20787959 Canada has made great strides in reducing its debt, running hefty surpluses in the last few years. Its debt to GDP ratio is around 40%, I believe the lowest among OECD nations, and is falling rapidly. In contrast, the corresponding US ratio has passed 60% and rising rapidly. I think Claude Cormier still remembers the early 90s when Canada's debt was rising rapidly and is afraid that those times will return. But, based on the fact that Canada is one of the few countries running both budget and trade surpluses for a number of years in a row, his fears may be misplaced. Among currencies I would say the CAD beats all others hands down. Anyway, I have 4 passports and one is Canadian, so what. I have been here in Vancouver two weeks and I just find it so fascinating how most Canadians allow themselves to be brainwashed by the gov't into thinking the CA system is better and therefore they must pay way more taxes for marginal services, whether it be healthcare, education or defense. Oh yes, you want references. Google 4 day week schools Canada for that one. On defense you can look up Sea King crashes or Canada buys UK subs. Anyway, replied to my post against KyrosL's post. I am replying to you. Stop bellyaching! David