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To: michael97123 who wrote (152307)	11/22/2004 3:00:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Thanks. It is nice to know that someone recognizes I am not a ghoul. There is no intifada. Most of the country is fairly peaceful. What, there are four provinces out of 18 with ongoing, daily security problems? Al Sadr's attempt to foment a general Shi'ite uprising failed. What remains increasingly looks like a Sunni tantrum, for losing its privileged position, with some foreign terrorists thrown in. They cannot prevail, they will not prevail.

To: michael97123 who wrote (152307)	11/23/2004 2:01:37 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi michael97123; Re: "By the way i just defended you against Ed and Bilow in a post to Sun. Necons can be attacked as stupid in their view but certainly few neocons relish the casualties. And those casualty lists always seem to be brought up. Costs of war (human and otherwise) must always be figured in but we cant make policy based solely on them. I am getting tired of this war. I will continue to support it until the elections." My point with Neocon is that he refuses to say how many troops he is willing to lose to pacify Iraq. He just won't say. My guess is that Neocon would be willing to spend tens of thousands of US troops on Iraq, "if need be". Naturally, he won't admit it because it would turn people like you off. Already, less than 2,000 dead, and you, an early supporter of the war, are "getting tired of this war". That is the political reality that Neocon must face, that the American people simply do not have the will to win in Iraq. He can talk about how many casualties his parents took in WW2 until he's blue in the face, but it doesn't change the political reality in the US now, which is that there is not the will to win in Iraq. It simply isn't there. If it were, Bush would have started a draft a year ago and we'd have a million troops over there now. -- Carl