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To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (89199)	11/22/2004 9:07:16 PM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I don't hunt mammals but I do enjoy spearfishing. If done without scuba gear it is very challenging and a lot of fun. I don't think people who eat flesh have any right to complain about that sort of stuff. For every pound of shrimp they serve you in a restaurant, ten pounds of fin fish are killed and discarded. When I shoot a fish and cook it, there is no discarded bycatch whatsoever.

To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (89199)	11/22/2004 10:44:17 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Hunting tells you a lot about a person. Mostly it tells you that the person does not mind taking a life. Taking the life of an intelligent creature that is not a threat, that is not even bothering you... It is entirely predictable that hunters, and the kids they teach to hunt, will be predisposed to violence. What a load of crap. Sure, some hunters probably do enjoy the "kill", perhaps even getting an adrenaline rush out of it. But I'd guess more hunt because they enjoy the sport of the hunt, not the kill. Many also do it to "get back to nature" and some, believe it or not, hunt to stock their freezers with meat. In any case, you have absolutely no basis to say they are any more "predisposed to violence" than your average vegan. I'd guess less so than some, but that IS just a guess even if its based on the behavior of some while protesting. Personally, I do most of my hunting at Kroger, but hunters should feel no more guilt over a clean, legal kill than I do over getting some nice juicy NY Strips on sale. Or for that matter, no more guilt than any predatory animal feels over the death of its prey - its food. In other words, no guilt. The appropriate emotion, for those species with the capacity for such higher thought, is appreciation. And I am confident that the average hunter has at least as much appreciation for the animals they hunt and for nature in general than your average sentimental "its an innocent intelligent animal you're murdering" sap. And in many cases, much more. Think about that in a few days on Thanksgiving, even if all you're eating (while you sit there - hopefully not on a leather chair - feeling all morally superior for valuing other animals above humans) is dead plants.