To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (89259 ) 11/23/2004 8:15:26 AM From: epicure Respond to of 108807 I was wrong to call it "bad". Ben judiciously corrected me on that. So, how has expressing your indignation, in the way that you have, furthered your goals? Do you think the poster in question will change her mind? I would think a more reasoned approach would have been more helpful there. Are you hoping to cow her in to never making any more statements like that one? Hmmm. I've never seen that result on the net. Were you just hoping to express your indignation to satisfy your own feelings? I can see how that might be a reason for this. But of course then we come to the question- is it useful, or destructive, to act on our feelings, when what we are doing accomplishes nothing, or, in fact, degrades our community. Perhaps you think a night like tonight is productive for the SI community? I'm curious. Tell me how this improves the atmosphere on SI. It's not junior psychology (well actually, maybe it is- since I guess after that course people stop being curious? I'm still curious)- it's a genuine curiosity about why people want to do this, and what they get out of it, and why it is important to defend this type of behavior. I will tell you what I see. I see it produces a lot of factionalism- and that groups of people seem to kind of "bond" over these events. I see that the insults get more and more intense, and more personal (now I'm not talking about your- maybe you didn't attack her. There were so many posts, I really can't keep track who posted what, nor do I really want to, because this isn't personal- it's about the group dynamic here.) I see that people say the same thing over and over and over again. What I don't see is a positive social result, or even a rational rhetorical result- since few of the posts are trying to lay out anything resembling an argument. But maybe you see something positive.