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To: redfish who wrote (89386)	11/23/2004 11:52:44 AM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Imo, the real objection to hunting is not that animals are killed, but rather that someone derives pleasure through the process in which the animal is killed. Otherwise why pick on the guy who kills one deer a year, rather than the slaughterhouse employee who kills 100 animals a day? So on one hand you have people on the left telling people on the right: "Because of the things you do for pleasure, you are subhuman" On the other hand you have people on the right telling people on the left: "Because of the things you do for pleasure, you are subhuman" Either way, imo, you have people sticking their noses where they don't belong.

To: redfish who wrote (89386)	11/24/2004 7:22:09 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

"If the concern with hunting is cruelty to animals, then I think it is illogical to start by addressing deer. The number of chickens, pigs and cows killed in a single day far surpasses the number of deer killed by hunters in an entire year. So I think the place to start would be to close down the slaughterhouses, rather than starting by shutting down hunting. A chicken, pig or cow has every bit as much right to life as a deer, wild boar or antelope." That's a very brave statement to make in a meat-eating world, Redfish. I do agree with you. The subject of hunting deer is the one that bubbled to surface first here. Deer are wild animals, also, and some people feel more sad that wild animals are killed. I am sure that all the cows, chickens, turkeys, pigs, geese, ducks, goats, sheep and other animals that are slaughtered for food would disagree. They live every day of their lives in abject misery on our factory farms, and at least deer live beautiful free lives in the wild until a hunter shoots them. I think there also are several schools of thought on the subject. I read an article about Buddhism in which the question was asked, if you were going to eat meat, wouldn't it be better to eat a plate of shrimp rather than a steak, and the answer was no, because eating the plate of shrimp takes many lives, and the steak, just one.