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To: E who wrote (89485)11/23/2004 10:24:59 PM
From: ManyMoose  Respond to of 108807
 
I understand your view. Thanks.



To: E who wrote (89485)11/23/2004 10:54:43 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Respond to of 108807
 
From 12/30/2000 interview on CNN, www-cgi.cnn.com :

KING: In your book, it's a poignant chapter when you write about Carla Faye Tucker and her -- and her -- she was...

BUSH: Execution. Yes.

KING: And we had done the last interview with her, and you talked about watching part of that and how that was difficult for you. That had to be the hardest thing to do. But the question is -- I hope I'm quoting her right -- Governor Richards said that a governor can't stop -- a governor has no power in Texas. He could stay it or stay it for 30 days.

BUSH: For 30 days, yes.

KING: But that's all he can do.

BUSH: Sure.

KING: Is that right?

BUSH: It was. But let me tell you...

KING: So what was the dilemma?

BUSH: Well, here's the dilemma. You know, the dilemma -- I was going to enforce the law of the land, but what made it tough was your compelling interview with this...

KING: Which you quote in your own book.

BUSH: Yes. It was a compelling interview. I quoted the interview exactly, because it was -- you had put a face, a human face on the death penalty.

KING: So you were going to -- but all you could have done was give her 30 days, right?

BUSH: Right, that's right.

KING: So why not -- why didn't you give it to her, 30 days?

BUSH: Because my job is to uphold the law of the land. My job is to ask the question, innocence or guilt. My job is not to judge hearts. That's not the job of the governor, is to judge someone's heart.

KING: Wasn't it painful the night she died? BUSH: It was. It was very heavy. I had a heavy, heavy heart, and I held a very quick press conference to announce, and I didn't want to hang around for questions, because my heart was heavy.

And ironically enough, one of the next death cases that came to my desk was the case of a really horrible person, the exact opposite of a Carla Faye. And there was real doubt as to whether or not this person committed the crime for which he was accused. And he was granted -- you know, he's not going to be put to death.

KING: Is he...

BUSH: And it was just one of those moments, Larry, where I was confronted with two unbelievable cases that...

KING: It went one way, the other way.

BUSH: One went the other way. And you know, and I give you credit for lining up an interview that really caught the imagination of a lot of folks.

KING: Because the pope contacted you, right?

BUSH: Absolutely. A lot of people contacted me. But my job -- and this is what's important for a president -- is to uphold the laws of the land. It's not to take polls. It's not to take focus groups. It's not to figure out what's popular. It's to uphold the law of the land.

KING: Right back with Governor Bush, right after this.



To: E who wrote (89485)11/23/2004 11:01:58 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Respond to of 108807
 
Lucas, Henry Lee
(1936-2001)
biography.com

Murderer. Born Henry Lee Lucas on August 23, 1936, in Blacksburg, Virginia. One of nine siblings, Lucas was raised by abusive alcoholic parents. His mother ruled the household with an iron fist and prostituted herself in their backwoods community to make money. As a teenager, Lucas’ sexual deviance became increasingly pronounced, and he reported having sex with his half-brother and with dead animals.

Lucas spent his teen years in and out of jail. In March 1960, he was sentenced to 20 to 40 years in prison for murdering his mother. He was sent to Jackson State Penitentiary in southern Michigan, but after two attempted suicides, he was admitted to Ionia State Mental Hospital. He was paroled in 1970 after serving 10 years.

A year after his release, Lucas was sentenced to five years for attempting to kidnap a fifteen-year-old girl at gunpoint. After his second release in 1975, he traveled to Michigan where he teamed-up with a petty thief named Ottis Toole. They shared an unhealthy interest in rape and death. In October 1979, Lucas traveled the country accompanied by Ottis and his young niece, Becky Powell, who was mildly retarded.

According to Lucas, he and Powell became romantically involved, filling one another’s lifelong need for love and respect. Despite this romance, however, he eventually killed Powell, along with Katharine Rich, an elderly woman with whom they had been staying.

In June 1983, Lucas was arrested for possession of a deadly weapon. In his cell, he began confessing to hundreds of murders. Egged on by investigators from around the country, Lucas’ confessions became increasingly farfetched. It is unclear how many murders he actually did commit, but some believe it was just three: his mother, Becky Powell and Katharine Rich. He was sentenced to death, but the sentence was later commuted to life imprisonment by Texas governor George Bush. While on Death Row, Lucas became a born again Christian and spent the last 18 years of his life as a model prisoner. He died on March 12, 2001 of natural cause at the age of 64.

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To: E who wrote (89485)11/23/2004 11:06:09 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Seems to me he commuted the sentence when there was doubt about the case and didn't when there wasn't. If we are going to have capital punishment, would you rather governors decided such things on matters of law or on how religious the condemned person became after they were convicted?