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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (89599)	11/24/2004 4:49:39 PM
From: E	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Have you been on many small very planes? I have been on a great many very small planes. If you were to ask someone a direct question, and they were to turn and look at you and and purse their lips and in a mocking way, and mimic a statement directly to you, there is no reason whatever that you should not hear their words and see their sneering facial expression, and additionally observe the abrupt change when the sneering one observes your shock. The third party can only say she didn't hear that exchange, not that the report of this pro-Bush REPUBLICAN REPORTER, one with a "POSITIVE" attitude toward Bush according the the NATIONAL REVIEW, is a lie. Karen Hughes is a Bush communications director, RD. (Next, I'll post more about her.) are you having trouble with the language? It's English and plain as day. "on television" only implies that this portion of the Larry King interview never aired, not that it never happened. If it never happened, why is it published on CNN's website, dummy?- RD Oh look, you're losing it! -- and even going so far as to say that CNN has published a transcript showing that Karla Faye Tucker said something in her interview that she didn't say! Yes, I know Bush said she did! But she didn't! Why would you claim something was on CNN's website that isn't? Sorry, but the transcript of the program Bush saw is below. That "quote" came from his nasty, callow heart, not his memory. What was said is exactly what the NATIONAL REVIEW reported: Yet the Bush who emerges from the profile is remarkably thin-skinned. Carlson notes that while "the Larry King–Karla Faye Tucker exchange Bush recounted never took place" [RD, note: it never took place] on television, "Tucker did imply that Bush was succumbing to election-year pressure from pro-death penalty voters. Apparently Bush never forgot it. He has a long memory for slights." If this is what Bush considers payback, remind us to stay on his compassionate side. This is the report of Bush claiming that Tucker said something she didn't, according to the transcript to which you refer but which you clearly haven't read!: Bush whips around and stares at me. "No, I didn't meet with any of them," he snaps, as though I've just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. "I didn't meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. <I watched his interview with [Tucker], though. He asked her real difficult questions, like 'What would you say to Governor Bush?' " "What was her answer?" I wonder. "Please," Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me." Here's what she actually said: cnn.com

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (89599)	11/24/2004 4:49:40 PM
From: E	Respond to of 108807

Have you been on many small very planes? I have been on a great many very small planes. If you were to ask someone a direct question, and they were to turn and look at you and and purse their lips and in a mocking way, and mimic a statement directly to you, there is no reason whatever that you should not hear their words and see their sneering facial expression, and additionally observe the abrupt change when the sneering one observes your shock. The third party can only say she didn't hear that exchange, not that the report of this pro-Bush REPUBLICAN REPORTER, one with a "POSITIVE" attitude toward Bush according the the NATIONAL REVIEW, is a lie. Karen Hughes is a Bush communications director, RD. (Next, I'll post more about her.) are you having trouble with the language? It's English and plain as day. "on television" only implies that this portion of the Larry King interview never aired, not that it never happened. If it never happened, why is it published on CNN's website, dummy?- RD Oh look, you're losing it! -- and even going so far as to say that CNN has published a transcript showing that Karla Faye Tucker said something in her interview that she didn't say! Yes, I know Bush said she did! But she didn't! Why would you claim something was on CNN's website that isn't? Sorry, but the transcript of the program Bush saw is below. That "quote" came from his nasty, callow heart, not his memory. What was said is exactly what the NATIONAL REVIEW reported: Yet the Bush who emerges from the profile is remarkably thin-skinned. Carlson notes that while "the Larry King–Karla Faye Tucker exchange Bush recounted never took place" [RD, note: it never took place] on television, "Tucker did imply that Bush was succumbing to election-year pressure from pro-death penalty voters. Apparently Bush never forgot it. He has a long memory for slights." If this is what Bush considers payback, remind us to stay on his compassionate side. This is the report of Bush claiming that Tucker said something she didn't, according to the transcript to which you refer but which you clearly haven't read!: Bush whips around and stares at me. "No, I didn't meet with any of them," he snaps, as though I've just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. "I didn't meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. <I watched his interview with [Tucker], though. He asked her real difficult questions, like 'What would you say to Governor Bush?' " "What was her answer?" I wonder. "Please," Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me." Here's what she actually said: cnn.com

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (89599)	11/24/2004 4:49:43 PM
From: E	Respond to of 108807

Have you been on many small very planes? I have been on a great many very small planes. If you were to ask someone a direct question, and they were to turn and look at you and and purse their lips and in a mocking way, and mimic a statement directly to you, there is no reason whatever that you should not hear their words and see their sneering facial expression, and additionally observe the abrupt change when the sneering one observes your shock. The third party can only say she didn't hear that exchange, not that the report of this pro-Bush REPUBLICAN REPORTER, one with a "POSITIVE" attitude toward Bush according the the NATIONAL REVIEW, is a lie. Karen Hughes is a Bush communications director, RD. (Next, I'll post more about her.) are you having trouble with the language? It's English and plain as day. "on television" only implies that this portion of the Larry King interview never aired, not that it never happened. If it never happened, why is it published on CNN's website, dummy?- RD Oh look, you're losing it! -- and even going so far as to say that CNN has published a transcript showing that Karla Faye Tucker said something in her interview that she didn't say! Yes, I know Bush said she did! But she didn't! Why would you claim something was on CNN's website that isn't? Sorry, but the transcript of the program Bush saw is below. That "quote" came from his nasty, callow heart, not his memory. What was said is exactly what the NATIONAL REVIEW reported: Yet the Bush who emerges from the profile is remarkably thin-skinned. Carlson notes that while "the Larry King–Karla Faye Tucker exchange Bush recounted never took place" [RD, note: it never took place] on television, "Tucker did imply that Bush was succumbing to election-year pressure from pro-death penalty voters. Apparently Bush never forgot it. He has a long memory for slights." If this is what Bush considers payback, remind us to stay on his compassionate side. This is the report of Bush claiming that Tucker said something she didn't, according to the transcript to which you refer but which you clearly haven't read!: Bush whips around and stares at me. "No, I didn't meet with any of them," he snaps, as though I've just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. "I didn't meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. <I watched his interview with [Tucker], though. He asked her real difficult questions, like 'What would you say to Governor Bush?' " "What was her answer?" I wonder. "Please," Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me." Here's what she actually said: cnn.com

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (89599)	11/24/2004 4:54:27 PM
From: E	Respond to of 108807

The Republican Carlson tells salon.com about what that BUSH CAMPAIGN OPERATIVE you quote said about Bush's swearing and mocking Karla Faye Tucker: Q: What about your profile of George W. Bush in Talk in 1999? That had to be the most damaging profile of him yet written -- swearing like a truck driver, making fun of Karla Faye Tucker's death penalty appeals, mimicking her saying, "Don't kill me!" -- because of its high profile, and because of your access to him. Did that bring you flak from conservatives? A: Well, it's always disconcerting when something you write is received in a way you don't expect. I have no problem hurting someone's feelings -- obviously, I work on "Crossfire" -- but when you don't expect to, it's disconcerting. As I put in the book, the day before I filed the piece my wife asked, "Aren't people going to think you're sucking up?" And that was my concern, that people would think it's a suck-up piece. Q: And the response from team Bush? A: It was very, very hostile. The reaction was: You betrayed us. Well, I was never there as a partisan to begin with. Then I heard that [on the campaign bus, Bush communications director] Karen Hughes accused me of lying. And so I called Karen and asked her why she was saying this, and she had this almost Orwellian rap that she laid on me about how things she'd heard -- that I watched her hear -- she in fact had never heard, and she'd never heard Bush use profanity ever. It was insane. I've obviously been lied to a lot by campaign operatives, but the striking thing about the way she lied was she knew I knew she was lying, and she did it anyway. There is no word in English that captures that. It almost crosses over from bravado into mental illness. They get carried away, consultants do, in the heat of the campaign, they're really invested in this. A lot of times they really like the candidate. That's all conventional. But on some level, you think, there's a hint of recognition that there is reality -- even if they don't recognize reality exists -- there is an objective truth. With Karen you didn't get that sense at all. A lot of people like her. A lot of people I know like her. I'm not one of them. salon.com...arlson/index.html [*]