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To: tejek who wrote (1599)	11/26/2004 2:32:09 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1968

Fine. The Klan had little influence in the South and was mainly an extremist group. Now you switch from quoting out of context to attacking a staw man. I never said or implied that the klan had little influence. I said 1 - I don't think it had 4 or 5 million members. 2 - Your source didn't think it had 4 or 5 million members. 3 - You presented your source as claiming it had 4 or 5 million members when you source says it probably had a lot less. If it had 1/10th of that number it could have had a lot of influence and it could have done a lot of damage. But having a lot of influence isn't the same as running the whole south, and isn't enough to make the south or the "Bible Belt" very much like the Nazi regime. Tim

To: tejek who wrote (1599)	11/27/2004 5:01:27 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1968

Re: Fine. The Klan had little influence in the South and was mainly an extremist group. Why don't you just point to the fact that the KKK was merely the tip of the iceberg --the iceberg of racism and anti-negro hatred in the South?? Racism, segregation and negro-bashing was widespread and taken for granted throughout the Bible belt --it was indeed the South's way of life, not some theoretical, political agenda... Now, what does the KKK membership inform us about? Simply, it gives us a measure of hardcore, extreme racism in the South and beyond: any given constituency, population or social group can always be broken down into moderates and radicals. In the case of the South and the KKK, although racism and anti-black prejudice were dominant, not every Southerner was racist to the point of enrolling himself in a terrorist underground organization --everyday segregation and institutional racism enforced in schools, transport, workplace were enough for the majority (of whites). Yet, the appaling fact is that even Jim Crow laws were not enough for a sizable minority: the KKK longed for even more racist and fascist rules....