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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21990)	11/27/2004 9:47:02 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 80990

Gus > Jesus never existed as a historical, flesh-and-blood person --it's a composite character who was conjured up like a novel character by his "followers". I'm not sure that he didn't live. I'm of the opinion that he did but that his life and achievements were different from those portrayed in the Biblical texts. By no stretch of the imagination can I claim to be widely read on this enormous subject, but a view that I found very interesting is that of Barbara Thiering and which I think would agree with what you have said. amazon.co.uk And, I agree with this reviewer: >>This book, her third, continues to underscore that the Gospel stories are in fact much more extraordinary and fascinating than the Christian view suggests. We see how a small group of mostly men deliberately and brilliantly fashioned a theology and then built a church for the espousal of the most radical set of values we have today. The secret of their success - in part - was to clothe their ideology and history in myths and mysteries which they (correctly) guessed would be believed by the masses. It is clear that they themselves struggled with the question of the ethics of so doing. This book is the straw which will break the back of Christianity in its current form - and provides the Churches with the opportunity for renewal - without the fairy tales. To do otherwise is to seek to perpetuate the treatment of all of us as 'babes' - in exactly the way the founders of the Church did. After 2000 years, a new strategy is required if Christian values are to be realised on Earth. <<