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To: LindyBill who wrote (88489)11/28/2004 3:24:24 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793955
 
More death
David Warren

At stake in Iraq just now, is whether Jihadi terrorism and guerrilla action can be defeated. Iranian nuclear weapons are the bigger immediate issue, but Iraq offers the definitive test of wills. Do the U.S. and allies have the stomach to see the Jihadis off, even if this requires killing every one of them in a postmodern Iwo Jima? The whole Muslim world is waiting to see who wins this battle of wills, and I do not think it is an exaggeration to say that the future course of Islam may be decided in light of it.

The news from Iraq is good, though we must look through carnage to see it. The audiotape which appeared yesterday, from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the "field marshal" of the Iraqi Jihad, tells the story. He is apoplectic, indeed apocalyptic, about the failure of the whole Arab world to rise to his defence. He gives a very frank account of being "let down in the darkest circumstances", while "hundreds of thousands of the nation's sons are being slaughtered by the infidels". He thinks Iraq and Afghanistan have now been "handed over to the Jews and Crusaders".

Verily: keep firing.

In Fallujah, the U.S. and allies uncovered the command centres of the Sunni Jihadi underground. Despite the best efforts of Zarqawi's henchmen to remove irreplaceable assets from Fallujah before the storm, including their leader, the allies are now sifting a trove of intelligence finds in the city.

Early Tuesday, U.S., British and Iraqi soldiers struck south of Baghdad into the spaces between Latifiya, Mahmoudiya, and Yousifiya on the map, at the south end of the Sunni Triangle. This is the territory that includes Al Qaqaa, the large arms dump the U.S. was accused (inaccurately) of not securing during the original invasion; and indeed, everywhere in the Sunni Triangle, astounding quantities of munitions continue to surface.

Most are buried in fields; but according to several unofficial Marine sources, not just some, but all of the Sunni mosques so far entered have been found to conceal arms caches. It is becoming increasingly clear that Saddam Hussein, his Revolutionary Guard, and allied "Afghan Arabs", Syrians, Palestinians, and other Jihadi interests elaborately planned for the Iraqi "après-guerre", and made especially good use of the months when the U.S. invasion threat was on public exhibit at the United Nations.

Notwithstanding, as in Fallujah, the enemy south of Baghdad doesn't have a chance. The only question is how many allied soldiers they can take with them. Some of the enemy fighters are cowards, but many aren't, as the reader will discover by looking through the accounts of the embedded reporters. (Since I often condemn the New York Times, let me seize this opportunity to praise the extraordinary work of the Times' Dexter Filkins, who should get at least a Pulitzer.)

But they are no match for the technology and discipline the U.S. can array against them; and with growing experience of urban warfare, both U.S. and Iraqi soldiers get better and better at anticipating the booby-traps and tricks (which include wearing false uniforms, waving white flags, and pretending to be corpses).

The area to the south of Baghdad, while it is not the heart of the Sunni "insurgency", has become an obstacle course for Shia Iraqis communicating with the capital from the south of the country. Indeed, part of Zarqawi's publicized strategy for defeating the new Iraqi government has been to molest and butcher Shias randomly, in the hope of igniting a Sunni-Shia civil war.

Would the United States be better off with more soldiers in Iraq? On certain days, probably yes, and the last few have been among them. The Marines and associates were able to take Fallujah in a week at what appeared to be optimal strength (fewer and it would have taken too long; more and there would have been friendly-fire incidents). The U.S. Army was a bit stretched dashing back to quell irruptions in Mosul and Baghdad, but contrary to what I wrote last week, it now appears they didn't have to draw down forces watching the Syrian frontier.

They do not have enough troops to launch simultaneous raids in every Sunni town, but it makes more sense to attack these in sections, studying where the enemy flies as each nest is overturned, and nailing the next lot more economically.

While the stress placed upon the frontline soldiers is huge, they have proved they can handle it, and there remain two unanswerable objections to staffing up. One has been to reduce the number of targets for Jihadi ambushes. But it is still more important to keep pressure on the newly-trained Iraqi army, to assume more and more of the responsibilities. This means not repeating the mistake that was made in Vietnam, where the Americans effectively took over the war from the South Vietnamese, who were then unable to defend themselves when the Americans went home.



To: LindyBill who wrote (88489)11/28/2004 6:53:26 AM
From: Sig  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793955
 
Why Bush Won A look at the numbers, what they really mean and what happens next .>>>>

I am in sync with the words of David Gergen and his ability to think clearly and with freedom from political bias.

He is 'right on' in presenting the many reasons for Kerrys loss.
If the Democrats presented a program and candidate that could be recognized as providing better government IMO, I could or would vote for him.

The lead horses they promote, must be trusted to provide a noticeably better ride than the present ones in office.

If the economy had continued to fail under Bush( credit goes to Greenspan and the Fed). If we had lost in Afghanistan.

If we had gotten bogged down in Iraq. If major attacks on US had continued.
If Dan Rather had not been so swiftly found out as a liar.

If Clinton (peace at any price) had not been asked to speak for Kerry when military action against terrorists was regarded as a necessity.

If Hillary had not been so supportive in voting for Bushes programs ( the lady is brilliant, knowing she will need support from both sides to win future elections)

If Kerry and company had not tried continually to trash Bushes service record when it has been under scrutiny by the best trashers for over twelve years since he became Texas governor.

Thats like looking for WMD's where there aren't any. (g)

Any of these events would have enhanced the Democrats chances .

The US is still the deciding empire in world affairs.
We expect consistent and clear performance from the leaders, who will never be perfect nor meet all our demands.

Life of a Nation is a learning process, which entails both success and failure

Adaptability and change being more important than long term goals such as balancing a budget or providing enhanced benefits for homosexual marriage.

Or in maintaining a nicey-nicey relationship with countries like France. What is it with those people, that they are having problems with Muslim immigrants?
Will they once again drift along and refuse to face and correct problems until the US is once more asked to step in and save their asses. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

Demands by the public for intimate details of properly secret operations such as in the CIA or FBI, or in the publcation of misinformation that sometimes must be fed to an enemy, are out-of-line and harmful.

If Saddam had known we had invisble (to radar) F-117's in 1991 he could have developed more a effective response.

What will 2005 bring to the fore? More surprises I expect. And more front page distortions by the MSM who are far too concerned with politics and in telling us how to think.

When did they last summarize and present the good side , such as the progress of democracy in Afghanistan, of the cooperation we are getting from other countries in hunting down terrorists.

Has the MSM informed us about progress on a marvelous replacement for the World Trade Center and what it will symbolize.? I dont think so.

Sig




To: LindyBill who wrote (88489)11/28/2004 9:29:23 AM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793955
 
Can't agree with that. Gergen's got an obvious statist bias.

...David Gergen, a man we consider one of the most dispassionate observers of modern political history.



To: LindyBill who wrote (88489)11/28/2004 4:10:12 PM
From: frankw1900  Respond to of 793955
 
The Rolling Stone panel members are still assuming that working class voters are voting -unthinkingly- against their own economic interests when they vote Republican.

This may well be an error.

GERGEN: Bruce Reed wrote a very interesting piece in the Washington Post pointing out something I did not know. It suggests that we're entering a new period of politics. Of the twenty-eight states with the lowest per-capita income, Bush carried twenty-six. In the past, we would all have assumed that low-income states would mostly go Democratic. The fact that their income status does not seem to be tied to how they vote is a major advance for Republicans -- and something Democrats have to think a lot about. It's conceivable that Republicans, in continuing to emphasize small government, may have left themselves in a position where Bush was not held as accountable for the loss of jobs, say, in Ohio as he would have been twenty years ago. That, to me, is a big change.

There is also an irony in this. Kerry won all the states with the highest per-capita income. States such as New York, with high per-capita incomes, are the ones that send more tax money to Washington and get less back than the rest of the country. So the Democrats win in blue states that are essentially for bigger government but that get less back from government, while Republicans win in red states that stand for smaller government and are getting more money from the government than they send in.


Gergan is sharp. But he doesn't actually say that low taxes and purchasing power may well be attractive to low income voters and indeed they are voting their own economic interests.

From my inexpert viewpoint political concerns of these voters hinge on security, low taxes, purchasing power (including health care) and stable institutions that don't mess with them.

If you want to deliver affordable, reasonable quality healthcare, then it's very likely a decent operating model would be something like Walmart or FedEx or some of the commercial coops. That industry just hasn't risen to competetiveness. Health care is a huge issue with this electorate and neither the Dems or Repubs have risen to it.

As the security issues become better defined health care is going to come back and bite them.