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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Brumar89 who wrote (57370)11/29/2004 4:26:53 PM
From: RichnorthRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 81568
 
Whether or not we should have gotten involved in SVN in the first place is debatable. It is a fact, however, that the war was lost in the US at the instigation of the left.

It is remarkable that you still believe all that shit after all these years. It is only too easy and convenient to cast blame on the 'left' as if the 'right' could never do any wrong, isn't it?

Face the facts! America started that war on a false premise, and escalated it on deceit. Then the hubris of President Johnson and President Nixon (who let the war continue against better judgement) exacted an unnecessary heavy toll on human lives and incurred a seemingly inextinguishable debt/deficit. What price hubris? What price glory?

The carpet-bombing of Vietnam was unnecessary. It was Nixon's way to save "face" and salvage American pride and to propagate the notion that America had, after all, subdued the enemy. But what a way to achieve that! What price hubris and glory! To be sure, there is much truism in 'How-do-you-ask-the-last-man-to-die-for-someone's-mistake' Kerry's remark that the American top brass thought that oriental lives were cheap, expendable and of no consequence. Isn't it ironical that for telling ugly and unpalatble truths, John Kerry was crucified! Yeah, it's always so very easy and convenient to kill the messenger, isn't it?

Was there a precedent to America's notion that Orientals were subhuman and their lives were cheap and expendable? Look no further than the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945 which, in my opinion, was unnecessary. Japan was already defeated after Midway and its surrender was just a matter of time. But America didn't bother to wait. In order to hold the Russians in awe of American might, America dropped her Doomsday weapons on Japan. (BTW, the atom bomb dropped on Nagasaki was just to satisfy scientific curiosity that plutonium would work just as well as uranium-235 in the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Yea, Japanese lives were cheap and expendable.) The political spin of the day was that it was vital to drop the atom bombs to obviate further protracted military action and thereby save precious American lives. Of course, from the vantage point of history, one has to be very dense or biased or blind to buy that kind of shit today!

Going back a little back in time, one sees how some of the forefathers (bandits, highwaymen, rustlers, horse- and cattle-thieves, bootleggers, bank robbers and bounty-hunters, and gangsters, to give just a few examples) of present day Americans slaughtered and massacred thousands and thousands of native Americans and committed all manner of skullduggery on them. (To get just a few glimpses of America's shameful past, one just needs to read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", which is Dee Brown's eloquent, fully documented account of the systematic destruction of the American Indian during the second half of the nineteenth century, ISBN: 0805066691). No wonder their descendants are just as trigger-happy and cowboyish at home and around the world today, eh?

Closer to our time, America got involved in the Middle East. Her greed for oil and desire to control it as a means to exert her hegemony over the entire world eventually, her machinations in the Middle East and overt support for Israel have, no doubt, incurred the wrath of the Jihadists. Given America's biography and history, is it any wonder that those who are predisposed to distrust and to attack America feel "justified" in their stance and ever remain implacable?

If Karma has any meaning, it appears that America has incurred a lot of karmic debts to be paid. How this Karma would be extinguished remains to be seen. To be sure, we live in very interesting, if not foreboding, times!
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Believe it or not: Way back in the 1920s, Winston Churchill, that venerable GOM of British politics of a bygone era, okayed the use of poison gas on the Kurds because he thought they were "subhuman". He certainly had set a historic precedent!

In the early to mid-1980s, America reportedly supplied poison gas (or allowed her companies to supply them to Iraq) which Saddam used on the Kurds. Then Saddam was demonized for having used them. Very nice and convenient political spin, eh?
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Please note that I write not top bait anyone. What I have written is verifiable history though some might argue it is controversial stuff. Given the fact that history is given little, if any, importance in the curricula of today's schools, it is vital that Americans should become less parochial in their outlook and get acquainted with history lest they all too easily become "useful idiots" of spinmeisters of sorts. By the way, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it or hear about it or even worse.......