To: TimF who wrote (152855 ) 11/29/2004 4:40:42 PM From: Michael Watkins Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 I'm not sure what your point is, in responding to my comment and linking references to the Lancet war *deaths* issue. I didn't quote the Lancet article - actually I've dismissed their number of 100,000 war dead since it was presented as a huge range and given a statistical ranking. Since we are somehow talking on war deaths, based on Iraqbodycount.org, UN, Iraqi aid organizations and other reports, it seems reasonable to estimate or assume that civilian war deaths total at least 15,000 over the past two years. Should we pat ourselves on the back? As for malnorished children, the estimates were prepared by an Iraqi agency:After the rate of acute malnutrition among children younger than 5 steadily declined to 4 percent two years ago, it shot up to 7.7 percent this year, according to a study conducted by Iraq's Health Ministry in cooperation with Norway's Institute for Applied International Studies and the U.N. Development Program. The new figure translates to roughly 400,000 Iraqi children suffering from "wasting," a condition characterized by chronic diarrhea and dangerous deficiencies of protein. ... Iraq's child malnutrition rate now roughly equals that of Burundi, a central African nation torn by more than a decade of war. It is far higher than rates in Uganda and Haiti. ... "Things have been worse for me since the war," said Kasim Said, a day laborer who was at Baghdad's main children's hospital to visit his ailing year-old son, Abdullah. The child, lying on a pillow with a Winnie the Pooh washcloth to keep the flies off his head, weighs just 11 pounds. ... Iraqi health officials like to surprise visitors by pointing out that the nutrition issue facing young Iraqis a generation ago was obesity. Malnutrition, they say, appeared in the early 1990s with U.N. trade sanctions championed by Washington to punish the government led by President Saddam Hussein for invading Kuwait in 1990. International aid efforts and the U.N. oil-for-food program helped reduce the ruinous impact of sanctions, and the rate of acute malnutrition among the youngest Iraqis gradually dropped from a peak of 11 percent in 1996 to 4 percent in 2002. washingtonpost.com Yes, we are doing a fine job.