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Strategies & Market Trends : Winter in the Great White North -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: johnlw who wrote (5984)11/29/2004 10:29:16 PM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8273
 
May poly AW, finished wood products, znd, raw log product, clear cuts (that's what loggers do, man) and haulers of Avian all live happily ever after in some kind of dreamy eco-heaven. Economic and eco-logical.

Some people tell me that basic resource harvesting is low tech and making small boxes that do word processing is high tech and never the Shania Twain will meet. (She owns a chain saw, a halter-top and a lap, but not a lap-top).

Bud I differs. We have graduated from the vibration-maximized chain saw to quintessentially high tech over computerized harvesters. If it breaks down your HD meckie has to have a comp sci degree to fix it. Good luck, fellah. That's real progress over the steam powered donkeys of the hi-line days. Pretty soon we will have a complete saw/paper mill on tracks able to work at 45 degrees. And it will work better than 20% of the time. And make poly AW from the rear end (appropriately) as an extra.

I am not so sure there is any dividing line in technologies or any advantage in value added products, except that slave wage farms are homeside.

EC<:-}



To: johnlw who wrote (5984)11/30/2004 3:11:44 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8273
 
Port Alice, there's an end of the road town ... my late neighbour had a friend who wrote a novel in which PA was thinly disguised, name of Jack Hodgkins[sp?] or something .... the mill is shut down right now, you know, you could buy it for a dollar, easy .... if you, um, assume a few debts ... it's been up and down like a yo-yo for years, this time [just three or four weeks ago] the most recent owners hit the wall - high loonie, high log cost, high oil, and low capital .... these guys started out slow and then petered out altogether, didn't take long ...... this mill is famous for having a digester with the inscription Deutschland 1903 or something like that, bought as used equipment when they built the mill, and still works fine

Logs being exported from there would have been cedar and/or high grade hembal, you don't make pulp from cedar and it would be a shame to chip high-grade, these are rightly sawlog .... sawmills never have been economic in places like that - even Tahsis, which would have made it if anybody made it, gave it up in the end .... i think there was a sawmill in PA once upon a time, well there were lots of them all over ..... in mills, be they pulp- or saw-, it's go big or go home, you need economy of scale to cover today's costs for logs, labour, energy, parts, etc ..... it's all megabusiness now, supremely boring - seems like technology does that to a lot of industries, takes out the one-horse shows, like Walmart takes out family stores

Asians pay big bucks for prime sawlog, you wouldn't believe .... seven hundred loonies the metre for temple quality yellow cedar, ahem ... and not so far below that for fir Ds ... this is what has stimulated so much heli, going in and trying to pick just the berries .... but i hear cedar just tanked by forty more bucks, nice hembal is being offered way cheap and no takers, so there'll be a lot less noise around the coast for some time

Don't know what's up with Zenda, they had a re-org of some sort, forgot the details, but new folks now ... EC will likely know ... and, oh, there he is -g-

grs.to - this is one i had good luck with two years ago [or last year??], going to look at it again, it's got that spring-summer tankola pattern, and not out of it yet

rac.v - i meant to try for some this morning, couldn't be online, checked it later and it was up twenty per cent, aargh ... gap-up, scarey-boo ... low volume, 180k

gyd.v - Grayd should be starting up the drill part of their programme about now, if they're on schedule ... plan was to do geophysics first, presumably to pick drill targets