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To: teevee who wrote (152965)	11/30/2004 11:31:52 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

If you read the bodansky articles posted by carranza you might conclude that its too late to deter al quaeda.

To: teevee who wrote (152965)	11/30/2004 4:31:51 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Respond to of 281500

> Second, the loss of American civilian life is unacceptable. < Is killing 15,000 (now a conservative estimate) Iraqi civilians "acceptable"? Feel any safer as a result of all those men, women, and children being killed? Here's some pictures for your pre-dinner viewing. Warning, you won't enjoy them. More people should look at them, disturbing as they are. us.news1.yimg.com An Iraqi nurse treats 2-year-old child Mustafa Adnan, at a Baghdad hospital, who lost a leg when his house in Falluja's Jolan district was shelled on November 14, 2004. (Ali Jasim/Reuters) us.news1.yimg.com A Wounded 16 month-old child cries while lying in a Baghdad hospital bed after his house in the war-torn city of Falluja was damaged during fighting between U.S. forces and insurgents in the western city, November 14, 2004. U.S. tanks shelled and machine-gunned rebels still holding out in Falluja Sunday in heavy fighting that was preventing an Iraqi Red Crescent convoy from getting aid to civilians trapped in the city for six days. REUTERS/Ali Jasim img111.exs.cx Numerous dead kids. irregulartimes.com More dead kids and others. And of course, plenty of "coalition" soldiers are injured and killed too. Pictures you won't find in your paper: fallujapictures.blogspot.com How Papers Are Covering Iraqi Civilian Casualties editorandpublisher.com