To: Jamey who wrote (22047 ) 11/30/2004 6:12:32 PM From: Raymond Duray Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81123 Re: you have no idea what I'm about. Apparently I do. This is from the website you linked to. Apparently you endorse this quote: "The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer." -Theodore Roosevelt *** I don't know if you know much about history, or anything, considering that you fill you mind with so much church-rot. You really would be wise to understand the trajectory of Theodore Roosevelt's thinking regarding war. In 1898, he was a gung-ho goon and willing imperial braggart. That's the era that the quote above came from. By the time that Roosevelt had become more mature, his viewpoint had become entirely more intelligent about the nature of war, and its despicable nature as a means for greedy old men to further enrich themselves by destroying the next generation. You would do well to study the context of this important quote from Theodore Roosevelt as he lambasted the utterly cynical imperial plotting of Woodrow Wilson on the cusp of America sending off the "Doughboys" into battle in Europe in 1918 in order to defend the loans that J.P. Morgan & Co. had made to the King of England and to the government of France. "The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else." --Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918