To: RetiredNow who wrote (212438 ) 12/1/2004 1:57:17 AM From: tejek Respond to of 1574267 What we're seeing now are Muslims once again blaming the U.S. for their barbarity and the rage they feel. The U.S. is always to blame in their minds. It's never themselves. And the truth is that until they acknowledge that their culture is corrupt and bankrupt, they will never move forward as a society. There is no question that their gov'ts are corrupt and that the level of violence is high in their societies. However, we are not completely innocent in our dealings with the ME.Even if they were to be successful in destroying the U.S., they will still be left with ashes in their mouth, because they will still be ruled by tyrants and wear around their necks the albatross of a 7th century religion with 7th century laws, and little to no freedom of thought or the ability to recapture the glory days of the Caliphate. To ever rise to that level of achievement again, they have to face their own demons and stop blaming the U.S. I am more than willing to let them screw themselves. For that reason, I would prefer we stay out of the ME. I agreed with the attack on Afghanistan because I thought it was to get bin Laden and weaken al Qa'ida. I get lost with anything that extends beyond that game plan.In the mean time, if they persist in making the U.S. their enemy, then they are in for another very rough 50 years, because the U.S. is not going to be defeated by anything short of a nuclear holocaust. And if that was launched by a Middle Eastern country, then you can be sure that country would be a glittering landscape of glass after our own retaliation. I don't think the conflict between the US and the ME will end in nuclear devastation. However, I do think they can make things difficult for us in spite of our super power status. I anticipate that the longer the upheaval continues in Iraq, the more problems we will begin to encounter in other parts of the ME.