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To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (67920)12/1/2004 8:38:06 AM
From: sylvester80  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
You may not subscribe to that thought process but they do. Is what the Pat Robertsons and Falwells of the world preach to mindless hypocrites like Bush and Bush supporters.

But because the theater is the Middle East, wars and rumors of wars resonate for many conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists in a way that goes much deeper than "just war" theorizing. In his September 28 Washington Post article, "Religious Leaders’ Voices Rise on Iraq: Most Question U.S. Moves Toward War, But Evangelicals Embrace Bush Policy as Assault on Evil," Bill Broadway turned to Richard Cizik (of the National Association of Evangelicals), who said, "In this instance, the president has articulated a faith much like our own," which includes the explicit acknowledgement of the existence of "evil," embodied in people like Saddam Hussein. "This isn’t preemption, but another step in responding to the continuum of terrorism, of evildoers," Cizik added.

The September 9 Tampa Tribune reported on a speech by Bob Jones III, who gave unqualified support to the president. "Let the United Nations fly a kite," he said. In October, news broke that the Southern Baptist Convention’s Richard Land, irked by the mainline’s deluge of anti-war sentiment, had drafted a pro-war statement and rounded up a few other evangelical conservatives to sign it: Bill Bright, Charles Colson, D. James Kennedy, and Carl Herbster. Even Pat Robertson’s American Center for Law and Justice, which normally concerns itself with domestic issues, got into the act, starting a pro-war petition drive.

Islam has been increasingly vilified in the evangelical subculture. On September 9, the Springfield, Illinois State Journal-Register reported on a speech by Gary Bauer, Christian Right leader and sometime GOP also-ran. In it, he said, "I wish the president would be a little bit more, I guess, politically incorrect and say what we are at war with, and that is radical Islam—not all of Islam, but the radicals in that faith that have basically declared war on Jews and Christians and on Israel and the United States. I think it’s going to be hard for the American people to do all the things we should do unless our leaders make it clear who the enemy is."

Bauer’s comments were mild by comparison to the views expressed publicly by several other evangelical leaders. "Pulling No Punches: The Reverend Franklin Graham is Leading the Charge Against Islam," ran the headline on Martha Sawyer Allen’s story in the Minneapolis Star Tribune August 10. Graham asked Allen rhetorically, "Why haven’t Muslim clerics from around the world gathered at ground zero, held hands together and prayed to Allah for forgiveness and told the American people this is not Islam? Because they believe it was right."

"Open scorn for Islam has become a staple ingredient in the speeches of conservative Christian leaders since the September 11 attacks," concluded Susan Sachs in the June 15 New York Times. Sachs reported on anti-Islamic remarks made by Southern Baptist leader Jerry Vines (who said Muhammad was a "demon-possessed pedophile"), and by Pat Robertson (who said Islam is a religion that seeks to control, dominate, or "if need be, destroy" others).

The most widely publicized broadside came from Jerry Falwell, who, in an exchange with CBS News’ Bob Simon broadcast on "60 Minutes" October 6, blurted, "I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough of the history of his life written by both Muslims and non-Muslims, that he was a violent man, a man of war."

Falwell later apologized. According to a CBSnews.com report October 14, "He claimed he made a mistake while responding to a ‘controversial and loaded question’ at the end of an hour-long interview." Without commenting on the irony, the report added that, "Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran reacted with rage to Falwell’s remarks, and an envoy of Iran’s supreme leader called for his death."

Simon’s "60 Minutes" segment also explored the origins of Protestant fundamentalism’s growing bond with Israel—namely, it’s tendency to filter all matters Middle Eastern through the lens of dispensational eschatology.

"There is an alliance between America and Israel in the war on Islamic terror. But it goes deeper," noted Simon. "For Christians who interpret the Bible in a literal fashion, Israel has a crucial role to play in bringing on the Second Coming of Christ."

This is old news, as Christian conservatives have been apocalyptic allies of Israel for decades. What’s new is (a) the unprecedented intensity, since the most recent intifada began, of Christian Zionist passion for Israel, and (b) the extent to which American Jewish organizations are openly embracing this support.

Larry Witham was on the story early, writing in the April 6 Washington Times that, "The bloody conflict in the Middle East is again turning some evangelicals to the Bible for texts that speak of a final cosmic battle in those ancient lands." Hal Lindsey, who popularized the study of Bible prophecy in his 1970 book, The Late Great Planet Earth told Witham, "I see Israel as the only nation on Earth with a title deed to any real estate."

Many Christian fundamentalists are being encouraged to agree with this kind of sentiment. In late April, for instance, Christian Right wunderkind and GOP strategist Ralph Reed took to the op-ed pages of the Los Angeles Times and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette to explain "Why Christians Stand Firm With Israel."

Arm chair Armageddonism has long been a favorite fundamentalist hobby, and in recent years there has been a surge in pop-eschatology, one not without political overtones. As David Waters noted in the August 21 Memphis Commercial Appeal, "Christian Zionism is the theology behind the best-selling ‘Left Behind’ books. It’s also the theology behind the rise of Israel as a favorite cause of the Christian Right."

"Jewish leaders don’t seem to mind the theology as long as it generates political support for Israel," Waters argued. He oversimplified matters, but there has indeed been a new level of Jewish-evangelical cooperation. For instance, the Anti-Defamation League republished Reed’s op-ed. Then on June 9, as David Firestone reported in the New York Times, Reed stood alongside Yechiel Z. Eckstein, president of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, to announce the formation of a new lobby called Stand for Israel. Eckstein only half-jokingly called Stand for Israel "the Christian AIPAC."

For its part, AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) recently held its annual conference in Atlanta, where invited speakers included Reed. "Jewish Lobby Meeting in Bible Belt to tap Pro-Israel Sentiment in the South," announced Scott Shepard’s report for the Cox News Service October 1. AIPAC spokesman Josh Block remarked that AIPAC’s 40 percent membership surge in the last two years has come "from all over the religious spectrum."

A June 10 AP dispatch by Matt Curry reported that a group called Churches United With Israel had kicked off a series of pro-Israel rallies/prayer meetings. The first event, held June 9 in an Assemblies of God mega-church, featured welcome videos from Jerry Falwell, Pat Boone, and Benjamin Netanyahu, and an appearance by Jerusalem mayor Ehud Olmert. And on July 12, the Washington Times reported that Gary Bauer was joining hands with Orthodox Jewish Rabbi Daniel Lapin, a longtime cultivator of the Christian Right, to form a new group called the American Alliance of Jews and Christians.

In his July 13 article, "A Growing Friendship: Love for Israel Drawing Jews, Evangelical Christians Together," Tulsa World religion writer Bill Sherman interviewed Yehuda Katz, an Israeli emissary to Tulsa, who argued that although Israeli Jews have seen evangelicals as good friends for the last 20 or 30 years, American Jews have traditionally been cool-to-hostile toward evangelicals. "But something has happened in the last two years. They have realized that Israel, at its hardest time, has received huge support from the evangelical community, and not necessarily from liberals," said Katz.

Like evangelicals, the GOP has become more staunchly pro-Israel. A steady drumbeat of news stories speculated about the partisan implications for Jews, who are normally as Democratic as evangelicals are Republican: "Bush Stance Pleases U.S. Jewish Groups" (Washington Post); "Liberal Jews Are Finding Common Ground With the Right" (Buffalo News); "Jewish Voters Noticing GOP’s Pro-Israel Moves" (St. Petersburg Times).

As Alison Mitchell reported in the New York Times April 21, it is a mistake to attribute American conservatism’s turn toward Israel entirely to pressure from Protestant fundamentalists. "The Likud Party in Israel has also built ties to conservatives," Mitchell noted, and "The departure from Republican ranks of Patrick J. Buchanan and his followers also muted the voices of conservatives who were more critical of Israel…. In the 1960s and earlier, the conservative movement included elements, like the John Birch Society, that were viewed as anti-Jewish. These elements, too, have waned."

It is also a mistake to read too much into the decision of Jewish groups to ally with Christian fundamentalists. To a large extent it is viewed as a tactical move born of necessity. Memories of an anti-Semitic legacy within fundamentalism are fresh. One of the biggest religion stories last March stemmed from newly released Nixon tapes from 1972, on which Billy Graham is heard exchanging anti-Semitic banter with the president (comments for which Graham profusely apologized).

There were also voices urging caution on the grounds that fundamentalist fervor for Israel is so strong that it is counterproductive. Indeed, some Christian Right leaders have associated themselves with the most radical positions in the Israel-Palestine debate. The aging Christian Right warhorse Ed McAteer told Bob Simon on "60 Minutes" that, "Every grain of sand, every grain of sand between the Dead Sea, the Jordan River, and the Mediterranean Sea belongs to the Jews." When Simon wondered what that would mean for the three million Palestinians who live on the West Bank and Gaza, McAteer suggested the bulk of them could be moved to some Arab country.

The headline of a column by Peter Beinart in the May 19 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette asked, "Does the Christian Right Understand Zionism?" He recalled how Rep. Dick Armey and Janet Parshall (Family Research Council) had recently made statements endorsing the idea of Israel transferring Palestinians out of the West Bank. Beinart argued that, "The overwhelming majority of Israeli politicians and intellectuals oppose deporting the Palestinians, because they speak in the shadow of the Holocaust. Even the ultra-far-right Moledet Part of assassinated Tourism Minister Rehavem Ze’evi—which seeks to make the Palestinians citizens of Jordan—does not suggest physically moving them."

For the Christian Right, Beinart continued, "Israel’s interests cannot be defined pragmatically, because Israel’s primary function is to clarify a larger worldview…. [F]or the Christian Right, Israel’s claims are moral only insofar as they are biblical. That runs counter to the mainstream Zionist tradition, one of the greatest achievements of which has been to establish moral claims to Jewish statehood—claims Israel incarnates as a liberal democratic state—that do not rely on scripture…. Ultimately, if you don’t love Israel for what it is, you can’t be trusted to love it at all."

By summer, the pro-Israel views of fundamentalists had moved so far to the right that it sparked a counter-movement of moderate evangelicals—an important ball most journalists dropped. In "Evangelical Leaders Ask Bush to Adopt Balanced Mideast Policy," a July 27 piece in the Washington Post, Caryle Murphy reported on a July 23 letter sent to President Bush insisting that "the American evangelical community is not a monolithic bloc in full and firm support of present Israeli policy." While they condemned suicide bombings, they also took a swipe at "the continued unlawful and degrading Israeli settlement movement." The 59 signatories included a wide array of evangelical luminaries, including Richard Mouw, Craig Barnes, Bob Seiple, Tony Campolo, David Neff, Gordon MacDonald, Ron Sider, James Skillen, Philip Yancey, and Marilyn Borst.

For American Jews, the alliance with Christian conservatives on Middle East politics is partial and provisional. Still, it is a remarkable development given the history of religious and political tension between the two communities. Abraham Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League, put the matter delicately on "60 Minutes": "On this specific issue, on this day, we come together. And what is the issue? The issue is fighting terrorism."

"That is precisely what the Bush administration and the Israeli government have been saying since September 11, that they are allies in the war on terror," commented interviewer Bob Simon.

"But the Christian fundamentalists go further," he added. "They say it is not just an alliance between nations but between religions."

trincoll.edu



To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (67920)12/1/2004 8:44:16 AM
From: redfish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Whether you subscribe to it is irrelevant, what matters is that plenty of people do and they are a major constituency of the Bush Regime:

(CBS) This week, Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told President Bush that he would start to dismantle some illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank as part of an agreement with the new Palestinian Prime Minister.

That news has already alarmed those Jewish settlers -- and ultra-Zionist Israelis who believe that the Jewish State should control all of the Biblical Jewish homeland.

But they're not the only group that feels that way. So do Fundamentalist Christian Evangelicals who make up the largest single religious grouping in the United States. Correspondent Bob Simon first reported this story on October 6, 2002.

What's the number one item on the agenda of the Christian Right? Abortion? School Prayer? No and No. Believe it or not, what's most important to a lot of conservative Christians is the Jewish State. Israel: Its size, its strength, and its survival. Why?

There is the alliance between America and Israel in the war on Islamic terror. But it goes deeper. For Christians who interpret the bible in a literal fashion, Israel has a crucial role to play in bringing on the Second Coming of Christ.

Last fall, supporters of the Christian Coalition gathered on the Mall in Washington to express their faith and to lobby the administration. The rally was organized by the Christian Coalition, which wants to make sure that the Bush Administration sees the struggle in the Middle East between Jews and Muslims their way - the Christian way.

At one congregation in Colorado, it’s Israel Awareness Day. But this is not a Jewish congregation. They are all Christians. Not only are they holding these pep rallies all across America, they’re also streaming here to Israel, to the dangerous streets of Jerusalem to express their undying devotion.

American Christian Zionists say they are now a more important source of support for Israel than American Jews or the traditional Jewish lobby.

“It is my belief that the Bible Belt in America is Israel’s only safety belt right now,” says Rev. Jerry Falwell, one of the leaders of the Christian Right. That’s the bulk of Evangelical Christians; Falwell claims to speak for all of them.

“There are 70 million of us,” he says. “And if there’s one thing that brings us together quickly it’s whenever we begin to detect our government becoming a little anti-Israel.”

Falwell began to detect just that in April 2002 when President Bush called on Israel to withdraw its tanks from Palestinian towns on the West Bank. So Falwell shot off a letter of protest to the White House, which was followed by a hundred thousand e-mails from Christian conservatives. Israel did not move its tanks. Mr. Bush did not ask again.

“There’s nothing that would bring the wrath of the Christian public in this country down on this government like abandoning or opposing Israel in a critical matter,” Falwell says. The “Christian public” is, he says, Mr. Bush’s core constituency.

“I really believe when the chips are down Ariel Sharon can trust George Bush to do the right thing every time,” says Falwell.

Prime Minister Sharon can apparently trust the Christian Evangelicals to do the right thing too. They treated him like a rock star when they flocked to Jerusalem last fall to celebrate the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles.

What propels them? Why do they love Israel so much? The return of the Jews to their ancient homeland is seen by Evengelicals as a precondition for the Second Coming of Christ. Therefore, when the Jewish state was created in 1948 they saw it as a sign.

Israel’s conquest of Jerusalem and the West Bank in 1967 also deepened their excitement and heightened their anticipation. And today’s war between Jews and Arabs was also prophesied, they say. They’ve seen it all before – in the pages of the Bible.

“The Bible does not contain the word of God,” says Ed McAteer. “Listen to me closely. The Bible is the word of God.” McAteer is known as the Godfather of the Christian Right. He’s a former Colgate marketing executive from Memphis, and a founder of the Moral Majority.

McAteer believes that the current situation is the beginning of the final battle. “I believe that we are seeing prophecy unfold so rapidly and dramatically and wonderfully and, without exaggerating, makes me breathless.”

But he’s not the only one. Countless millions of Americans are reading a series of novels called “Left Behind.” These novels are topping bestseller lists all over the country and they’re being made into movies. They chronicle apocalyptic times, and the setting is the 21st century, complete with war planes and TV correspondents.

However, the plot is ripped from the pages of the Bible, so it all winds up here in Israel where, according to the Book of Revelations, the final battle in the history of the future will be fought on an ancient battlefield in northern Israel called Armageddon. It will follow seven years of tribulation during which the earth will be shaken by such disasters that previous human history will seem like a day in the country. The blood will rise as high as a horse’s bridle at Armageddon, before Christ triumphs to begin his 1,000-year rule.

And the Jews? Well, two-thirds of them will have been wiped out by now. But the survivors will accept Jesus at last.

“The Jews die or convert. As a Jew, I can’t feel very comfortable with the affections of somebody who looks forward to that scenario,” says Gershom Gorenberg, who knows that scenario well.

Gorenberg is the author of the “End of Days,” a book about those Christian evangelicals who choose to read the Bible literally. “They don’t love real Jewish people. They love us as characters in their story, in their play, and that’s not who we are, and we never auditioned for that part, and the play is not one that ends up good for us.”

“If you listen to the drama they’re describing, essentially it’s a five-act play in which the Jews disappear in the fourth act.”

But if that makes Gershom Gorenberg feel uncomfortable, these Christians say it’s only because he doesn’t understand how deeply they love him.

“The Jews need conversion,” says Kay Arthur. “They need to know that the Messiah is coming. And the Bible tells us what’s going to happen.” Arthur heads an organization called Precept Ministries in Chattanooga, Tenn. She brings thousands of pilgrims to the Holy Land.

The Christian fundamentalists believe the only Israelis who are really listening to God are the hard line Jewish settlers who live on the West Bank and Gaza and refuse to move. The Christians trudge up to these settlements as if they were making pilgrimages to holy shrines. That’s because they and the settlers share a core conviction.

They believe that God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people. “Every grain of sand, every grain of sand between the Dead Sea, the Jordan River, and, and the Mediterranean Sea belongs to the Jews,” says McAteer. This includes the West Bank and Gaza.

What about the three million Palestinians who live on the West Bank and Gaza? McAteer suggests the bulk of them could be cleansed from this God-given real estate and moved to some Arab country. Nothing can come between the Jews and their land.

In fact, many fundamentalists believe that when Prime Minister Rabin signed the Oslo accords and offered to trade land for peace, it was not only a mistake, it was a sin.

“They were going against the word of God. You cannot go against the word of God. And I believe that God stopped it ... by the things that happened.” says Arthur. She hints that God punished Rabin by assassinating him. “I think that God did not want that Oslo Accord to go through.”

“God save us from these people,” says political analyst Yossi Alfer, who served 12 years in Israel’s intelligence agency, the Mossad. Later, he became Israel Director of the American Jewish Committee.

Says Alfer: “When you see what these people are encouraging Israel and the U.S. Administration to do that is, ignore the Palestinians, if not worse, if not kick them out, expand the settlements to the greatest extent possible, they are leading us into a scenario of out and out disaster.”

But many American Jewish leaders who used to shun support from the Christian Right have changed their minds. Abe Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League, accepts their support.

“On this specific issue on this day we come together. And what is the issue? The issue is fighting terrorism,” Foxman says.

That is precisely what the Bush Administration and the Israeli Government have been saying since September 11, that they are allies in the war on terror. But the Christian Fundamentalists go further. They say it is not just an alliance between nations but between religions.

“A lot of Muslims feel these days that Christians and Jews are getting together and ganging up on them,” Simon said to Falwell.

“That’s true. I’m sorry, that’s true. I hope it will cease to be so. But I think that is the fact right now,” says Falwell.

Falwell believes most Muslims want to live in peace but, he says, the lines have been drawn. Christians and Jews are on one side, Muslims on the other and, he says, those lines were drawn more than a thousand years ago.

“You wrote an approving piece recently about a book called ‘Unveiling Islam,’” says Simon to Falwell. “And you, the authors of that book wrote, ‘The Muslim who commits acts of violence in jihad does so with the approval of Mohammed.’ Do you believe that?"

“I do,” says Fallwell. “I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough of the history of his life, written by both Muslims and non-Muslims, that he was a violent man, a man of war.”

“So, in the same way that Moses provided the ultimate example for the Jews and same way that Jesus provided the ultimate example for Christians, Mohammed provided the ultimate example for Muslims and he was a terrorist,” asks Simon.

“In my opinion,” says Fallwell. “And I do believe that - Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses. And I think that Mohammed set an opposite example.”

What frightens Alfer is that he hears much of Falwell’s world view reflected in the words of the Bush Administration.

“When we hear expressions like “the evil ones,” this kind of black and white view of good guys, the bad guys,” says Alfer.

But as long as Jews are the good guys in this representation, this is good for the Jews, isn’t it?

“It’s not good for the Jews. It’s not good for the Jews," says Alfer. We have to get God out of this conflict if we’re going to have any chance to survive as a healthy, secure Jewish state."

cbsnews.com



To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (67920)12/1/2004 8:51:06 AM
From: sylvester80  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Need I say more? Here is your typical evangelical "Christian":

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