To: RetiredNow who wrote (212451 ) 12/1/2004 1:37:59 PM From: Alighieri Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574230 Look. There was a plane fuselage in the middle of the desert where Ansar-al-Islam practiced hostage taking. Ansar-al-Islam is on our terrorist list and they operated out of Iraq with impunity. Zargaqi was known to have convalesced in Iraq. They have found WMD manuals in Fallujah. They have found evidence of dual use WMD labs that would have been reconstituted and used for WMD production the minute sanctions had ended and the spotlight was off Iraq. 10 years of sanctions to get Saddam to comply with U.N. disarmament resolution had failed and a huge U.N. oil for food scandal was uncovered, where Saddam was able to bilk $17.2B dollars for support of terrorists, including Palestinian terrorists, right under the noses of the IAEA and the U.N. I am familiar with the party line...but one has to have an inquiring mind, particualarly with veracity of many of these claims, as well as the cost/benefit consequences of one's actions. Clearly the level of alarm sounded by many policy experts here and abroad, including some prominent ones in the conservative ranks, were quite loud and blatantly shoved aside. In other words, your beliefs seem unemcumbered by evidence. The U.S. is tired of playing the double game with Muslims, and we're playing it like we see it. There is a faction of folks in this country whose attitude is that US interests are supreme among nations and that as a consequence, it need not behave with a fair hand with them. Some of these "contemporary partners" are winked into the pursuit of certain policies not in general keeping with the stated ideals of the US, as long as they live in harmony with certain other material of political interests of the US. The ones that come to mind are Iran during Shah tenure, Saudi Arabia today, Pakistan under Musharaf, Israel in Palestine. I am sure if I think a little longer, I can come up with many more examples. Based on what you've written so far, I don't hold much hope that you would recon your views with the statement above. In other words, you seem to be among those who would go around the world pushing America's will with little consideration for the wishes and iterests of those upon which it is imposed, later wondering aloud at their ingratitude... Al