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To: epicure who wrote (90355)12/2/2004 11:18:47 AM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
You really don't understand the term "group-think", do you?



To: epicure who wrote (90355)12/2/2004 11:19:55 AM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Whenever I see something like that, I turn it around 180 degrees and see if it still makes sense. Would you give the same answer if the higher education establishment were captured by people who don't share your political views?

Question:

do you think it is healthy that higher education has turned into a cauldron of enforced political groupthink?

Your answer:

yes it's healthy
yes it's a "good" thing



To: epicure who wrote (90355)12/2/2004 5:20:20 PM
From: J. C. Dithers  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Ion, I'm answering yours and others on the universities...

I haven't seen Karen's post on why there is such a liberal domination, but here's my reasons:

1. Almost all intellectuals are liberal democrats. The top two intellectuals I can think of in the presidential arena are, first, Woodrow Wilson, who made quite a mess of things as president. The other is Adlai Stevenson, who would have made a much worse mess if he been elected. Such thoughts give me comfort that so many intellectuals are confined to higher education where are limits to how much harm they can do to the functioning of society.

2. You can't get tenure in a university without a Ph.D. You can't get a Ph.D. without a lot of sucking up to your dissertation advisor and committee members. This guarantees that your topic better not be anything that could possibly be construed as conservative. (Less than half of Ph.D candidates make it through the dissertation).

3. Prior to the dissertation, most Ph.D. candidates serve for years as lackeys (slaves would be better) to their advisor as teaching assistants. This affords ample opportunity for any brainwashing that may be necessary to make them politically correct in their thinking.

4.Once on board with a job, the newly-minted assistant professors must start work on a publication record to gain tenure. The academic journals and their reviewers are mostly all liberal in orientation, and you are not going to get anything published with a conservative slant. So any conservatives who may have somehow slipped through this far will be whacked out at the up-or-out stage of tenure and promotion.

The sole exception to all of this is the B-School. That's where I was for 30 years.

Does this sound anything like what Karen said? (Very Big Grin).