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To: epicure who wrote (90361)12/2/2004 12:22:04 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
"You failed to quote my last sentence- which answers your question, imo."

So,"but I wouldn't expect anyone who doesn't agree with my politics to think that it is" is supposed to answer the question, "Would you give the same answer if the higher education establishment were captured by people who don't share your political views?"

Really? So you DID intend to say that you find no value in considering opposing views? You're "answer" appears to me to be a flat dismissal of "anyone who doesn't agree with" you. You assume you know what "they" think and have already decided they are wrong, so there is nothing, IYO, to be gained from considering what they have to say. I've got news for you - that is group-think.

BTW, "group-think" is not an epithet - it is a condition. And it applies equally to "groups" of any political stripe if they strive to stifle divergent thinking to protect their cherished views from anything that may bring them into question. It is a condition that thinking men (and women) have battled against for millennia, in all arenas from the sciences and medicine to religion, politics and economics. In some cases, group-think was enforced by the threat of the penalty of death - sometimes carried out, sometimes not. See Socrates and Galileo.

For the opposite of group-think, consider the simplified statement of Cartesian philosophy - question everything.

But feel free to expound endlessly on whether I have insulted you by using the term. That's certainly a worthwhile pursuit... not.



To: epicure who wrote (90361)12/2/2004 12:22:44 PM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Your last sentence, which did reveal your position clearly, also revealed the problem we have in this country. We have a constitution that is supposed to work for everyone, but we continually have people trying to gerrymander it so it works for them, but not people who oppose them.

That's a big problem, I think. That's why I prodded you a bit.