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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (90477)	12/3/2004 12:56:19 AM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

fee.org he used the phrase "life, liberty and property" rather than the better known American version "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", but he pre-dated Jefferson by several decades.

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (90477)	12/3/2004 1:16:38 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"Of course, there's also the notion of liberals being reform or new idea oriented compared to conservatives being resistant to change." I would agree that by this definition, George Bush is no conservative. I actually think he is new idea oriented, but most of his new ideas conceal his selling out the country to his big business friends who bought and paid for him. And then there is that idea of his that solving global warming should be . . . voluntary! Very strange, very radical, very, um, won't work . . . (translation) we're all going to hell on an ice floe . . . And he definitely is not a fiscal conservative, although I wish he were. In very recent history, Democrats (more liberal) have been the fiscal conservative presidents. I am not TRYING to cheat, incidentally. I thought the dictionary.com definition of liberal pretty much nailed it. As thread head, I have to read every post here, so I have to do something to save time. I am still days behind on reading posts . . .