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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E. T. who wrote (663720)	12/3/2004 2:10:19 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Your making much ado about a common event in history. Sending sons and daughters off to die is old hat in this world. Please. No one has ever purposefully sent his son to intentionally die for the wickedness of others, let alone the wickedness of the entire world. You haven’t a clue, but are just speaking out of your nether regions. There's all kinds of things the bible tells us to do, but we pick and choose what is important… And that is why you are such moral failures. Look, the Bible condones extramaritial sex for married men, but not for married women. But we don't follow the Bible's example, in that regard, anymore. Which is why you are such overt moral failures. The Bible condones nothing, but is merely a record of what was, is and will be. You are in error – as usual. Then it is fair for me to say you are not a Christian, even though you say your are. The validation of faith, the justification of it, is found in a man’s works and not merely in what he says. I have never murdered anyone. I have never advocated the murder of anyone, however small. I have never defended in humans what I know of a certainty is non-human. You have done nearly all of these wicked things, having not repented of them and therefore being condemned by them. I depend upon the might of the Son to save me from myself. You do not. The love of God constrains me such that by His grace I have never been unfaithful to my wife, have never left her, have never threatened it, have never even thought it in the least, and, by God’s might, never will. I have never knowingly told a falsehood either to my wife or to any of my children. I have been honest in all of my business dealings and have a pure and genuine love of people, especially for the hurt and defenseless. I hardly think anyone with your dearth of personal philosophy and obviously poor moral constitution can say the same. While these things separately are not proof to me of my Christian faith, they are together evidence that God cares for the conduct of my life and that He superintends me. Mind, I know I am as wretched and as disgusting a creature as you are when God is subtracted from the equation that equals me. Because I know the real value of things, and can sense it as clearly as you sense your own profound worthlessness, I know that none of the true force and devotion that is in me could ever exist in me merely because of me. So say as you wish. How do you know[ that God has the Power to use injustice to bring innocent people to Himself]? Oh yes, because the Bible tells you so... Well not only that. I have seen Him use injustice to bring guilty people, including myself, to Himself. So I figure, you know, if He can do that, then surely He can use injustice to bring to Himself people who are far worthier than I. That they are innocent quite explains the profound degree to which He brings them to Himself and why guilty people like me must temporarily endure this filthy purgatory here with you (and your crap) until such a time as we are made as free as the innocents. Is the pilot of a attack aircraft dropping bombs on innocent civilians an "unrepentant murderer" too. I have no idea, and neither do you. I'm not demanding anything of God, however, you are. Nope. I don’t demand. I expect. Unlike you, I have a right to expect much of God because I am His kid. Should you stay as you are, then you have no authority even to so much as expect anything of Him, except judgment and a sure passage to The Pit. I was just talking this over with one of my sons. We marvel that heathens are so dense that you cannot perceive even the natural justice in the world. I mean, just forgetting God for a moment, it should still be evident to you that your lies and murders are moral entities in themselves that do not simply vanish because your victims cannot hold onto them cognitively. Neither do they vanish with you in your death. They are things that persist through time, infecting everything here, until some Topmost Moral Value stops and reconciles them. I know that sounds like a bunch of hogwash to you, but you ought to at least consider the possibility that you are not getting away with your evil, that the lies and pain you are causing are alive and will one day play out against you. I know [God] did nothing. <rolling my eyes>Nonsense. You do not even know God.</rolling my eyes>. Get off you high moral horse, it's very sickening. Wonderful. You should feel sick because sick is exactly what you are. Sometimes we get too comfortable in our sickness so that it feels normal, even comforting. Some people live their whole lives in sickness and never think to do anything about it. Feel sick – and then go and find healing. Your statement shows you know nothing. And your statement shows what you wish were true, but what you know is not. I see you don't, does that make you a heathen too? You are not a heathen because you don’t understand the Scriptures. You don’t understand the Scriptures because you are a heathen.