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To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (90646)12/4/2004 8:24:18 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
"To do less, I feel, devalues the worth of the innocent lives taken."

So to show people that killing is wrong, you have society kill people.



To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (90646)12/4/2004 5:19:36 PM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
"I don't believe anyone's criminal records should ever be expunged for any reason, not even juveniles. Everything you write in your book of life you should be prepared to stand by and be accountable for."

I guess your children must be angels (or you don't have any, perhaps). My daughter has never even gotten a traffic ticket, so I don't have any personal stake in this, but I do think all of society needs to be compassionate towards the young, and help them when they mess up, and get them going in the right direction again. Part of growing up is learning from your mistakes, and no one is perfect.

It is almost impossible for people who get out of prison in this society to get jobs, because almost no one will hire them. A lot of them fall back into lives of crime--even though they dreamed every day when they were incarcerated about starting over--because there is no other way they can support themselves, no second chance for them. Now these are people who PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY, and yet are ruined forever. This is a societal ill we all pay for, forever. Not rehabilitating people is just plain evil, I think.

I won't even go very far into the other big issue here because I think it is so self-explanatory (although you might not understand it). Middle- and upper-class children are treated totally differently in America than poor children are. When our children get into minor, teenage kinds of trouble like getting drunk in public or fighting or becoming involved in petty vandalism or other pranks, the police call us and we take our children home. That's because we're "citizens" in the eyes of the police and the state in general. Poor children are arrested for the same offenses, and there they begin their lives of crime. Our society is totally unfair (and incarcerates a huge percentage of its citizens, comparatively) to maintain the social order.