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To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (90732)	12/5/2004 1:17:29 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

It's always good to turn to ethnic slurage when you don't understand things. On the conventional reality front, I would say, offhand, that Arabs have at least as much to fear from us than we have to fear from them. You can start with the devotion of W's war architects to the "Arab Mind" level of cultural understanding.

To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (90732)	12/5/2004 4:40:21 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

The Arabs really have no desire to take over the world, but the Chinese do and that frightens me. Console yourself with the immortal words of Socrates and everything will be just fine... I therefore, O Athenians, should have acted in a dire manner, if, when those rulers which you had placed over me had assigned me a rank at Potidea, at Amphipolis, and at Delium, I should then have remained where they stationed me, like any other person, and should have encountered the danger of death; but that, when Divinity has ordered, as I think and apprehend, that I ought to live philosophizing, and exploring myself and others, I should here through fear of death or any other thing desert my rank. Chinese methods of torture... "It is not clear whether torture is actually recognized by Chinese law, but it is practised in almost every known form by all Chinese magistrates, possibly as the most expeditious mode of legal procedure which is known. It is also undoubtedly the most potent agent in securing bribes. The legal instruments of summary punishment which hang on the wall of the Naam–Hoi judgment-hall consist of three boards with proper grooves for squeezing the fingers, and the bastinado, which is inflicted with bamboos of different weights. The illegal modes of “putting the question,” i.e., of extorting a confession of guilt, as commonly practised are, prolonged kneeling on coarse sand, with the brow within an inch of the ground; twisting the ears with “roughened fingers,” and keeping them twisted while the prisoner kneels on chains; beating the lips to a jelly with a thick stick, the result of which was to be seen in several cases in the prison; suspending the body by the thumbs; tying the hands to a bar under the knees, so as to bend the body double during many hours; the thumb-screw; dislocating the arm or shoulder; kneeling upon pounded glass, salt and sand mixed together, till the knees are excoriated, and several others, the product of fiendish ingenuity. Severe flogging with the bamboo, rattan, cudgel, and knotted whip successively is one of the most usual means of extorting confession; and when death results from the process, the magistrate reports that the criminal has died of sickness, and in the few cases in which there may be reason to dread investigation, the administration of a bribe to the deceased man’s friends insures silence." etext.library.adelaide.edu.au