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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E. Charters who wrote (18850)	12/6/2004 12:47:56 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"Then, the universe could similarly not be self-caused, since it is caused by the aggregation of its components, and so there must be some object, G, that causes the universe but is not the universe itself" So he thus asserts what he has just denied--that there is something without parts that has a causal relationship with the universe. Si if this universe was not part of God (God being ALL)...then it was created ex nihilo which is no different than being without rational cause but rather supernatural cause. Assuming a supernatural "cause" of anything is not a proof, and it leaves reason and logic outside the picture. To say that "out of nothing" is a cause is to speak gibberish. One could just as easily say the universe sprang from nothing rather than say that the universe was "caused" to spring from nothing ahead of a long line of Gods who were "caused" to spring from nothing--all of this an the absence of events and thus the absence of time and thus the absence of causative capacity.