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To: Neocon who wrote (153426)	12/6/2004 11:58:07 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>> we presume that most people tell the truth most of the time. Organizations are not "people". Their behavior and motives is not the same as the average person. They lack personal "conscience". Therefore they must never be trusted as we would trust a real person. This is especially true for large organizations like governments, industry lobbies, or big businesses.

To: Neocon who wrote (153426)	12/6/2004 12:03:28 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

As you say, most people fall within the norm. However, whether malicious or not, too many Americans choose to undermine US relations by faultfinding. * * *

To: Neocon who wrote (153426)	12/6/2004 12:12:15 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Neocon, re: Everyone is capable of saying things which are lying or misleading. Nevertheless, we presume that most people tell the truth most of the time. I do not see a reason to assume that the government is much more prone to lie, especially if "raisons d'etat" are absent. Thus, I assume that what is factually asserted by the government is pretty close to the truth, or the result of normal error, until the evidence of deceit strongly accumulates. I have known a lot of people in government, in political office, in the bureaucracy, and in the military. By and large, they are good people, not saints, but not uniquely sinful....... By way of helping a fellow human being, here is a list of a few of the things you should never do: Never buy a used car from a dealer. Never play cards with strangers for money. Never let that stranger give you a physical exam for free and, for sure, if he has both hands on your shoulders there should be nothing poking you in the back. Never, ever deal with anyone who doesn't share you childlike view of how things are done. I suspect this advice will be difficult to follow but you'll thank me later. Ed