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To: michael97123 who wrote (153468)	12/6/2004 3:48:06 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Well we are trying to rehabilitate Iraq and they are more secular as Arabs go, but they are sitting on up to 25% of the world’s oil reserves and we don’t want a bunch of crackpots in charge of the real estate. * * *

To: michael97123 who wrote (153468)	12/6/2004 4:11:18 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Well michael, many people here would have saved the 1275 dead so far by not going there in the first place. I agree with the three state solution BTW. Let Turkey and Iran contribute to Kurdistan as well. Let Syria get sunniland. Iran might get the east in the end anyway. What I have not heard from the cut and run crowd is any attempt to reconcile that result with the WOT. To have gone from secular authoritarian Saddam under sanctions and no-fly zones with no WMD to Islamic civil war/terror free-for-all would constitute one of the most spectacular failures of USA foreign policy that I can think of. Think Lebanon for 20 years. Careful planning might well have saved the day right after the invasion, but the bigger stick advocates have continued to hold sway with Bush, with hardly surprising results. Bush cannot tolerate failure here, so we will be staying awhile longer than you think. You need to start looking at it from Bush's POV, because that is what is calling the shots. Your hopes and mine don't count.