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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: E. Charters who wrote (18869)12/6/2004 5:29:18 PM
From: Solon  Respond to of 28931
 
"You want to get out of it by claiming all things have cause except the universe"

Not at all. I simply agree that aside from time/space we can infer little in the way of logic...which depends on the relationship between events and substance. So I am not making any claims outside of our knowledge: I am simply pointing out that Gremlins and The Shining and Old Yeller are real. Ya gotta have FAITH, BRUDDAH!

"As Einstein showed there cannot be an infinity of matter"

Let us straighten out a few misconceptions, HUH! Einstein and I hardly know ANYTHING. And we know it--OK?! We have seen enough bibles (and science texts) written by others to make us desire not to be remembered as primitive. I am like Socrates. I know nothing about ULTIMATE questions...certainly not about matter or infinity or teleportation.

"because as Einstein showed it would have infinite gravity..."

A few posts back you admitted we did not understand gravity. You are a fast learner.

"It cannot be infinite or it would have to have a rebirth mechanism from primordial ultra compressed dark matter, every 50 billion years or so."

That is all conjecture. I have no opinion on whether or not it is "infinite". But let me ask you something? If you were to ultimately get rid of all time, space, matter, and light...WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT?? Where would you hide the pions and kaons? Would you put them in a black hole? Where would you put the black hole?

"The universe has a size and aburn out time."

So does a cigarette? What is the point? So would God if She existed in the biological reality you are attempting to both use and deny. Except the legs would have a perfect mathematical ratio from hip to thigh to calf to ankle to ear.

"If the universe was non caused, then all its processes are running on auto with no cause as well"

We don't know that. I like to make a distinction between Willed and Caused. I am more interested in people than in erosion. Of course, the difference may amount to relatively nothing. Cows like grass.