To: Don Earl who wrote (9156 ) 12/7/2004 6:26:09 AM From: sea_urchin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039 Don > I don't believe it would require a device of the size most speculation I've seen appears to be centered around; 80,000 pound ANFO bombs, mini nukes, etc Indeed so, particularly because of the seismic evidence. This is not easily discounted.letsroll911.org >>A "sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of Univ. of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground explosion appears on a seismograph. Another seismologist, Won-Young Kim, stated that the Palisades seismographs register daily underground explosions from a quarry 20 miles away. These blasts are caused by 80,000 lbs. of ammonium nitrate and cause local earthquakes between Magnitude 1 and 2. Evidently, the energy source that shook the ground beneath the towers was many times more powerful than the total potential energy released by the falling mass of the huge towers.<< Furthermore, this assessment is in agreement with Jim Hoffman with respect to the energy required to produce the dust clouds. And one also has to account for the pools of molten metal which persisted in the basements for weeks afterwards and which would not have been the case if "standard" explosives were used. >>The foundations were 70 feet deep. At that level, 47 huge box columns, connected to the bedrock, supported the entire gravity load of the structures. The steel walls of these lower box columns were 4 inches thick. This is where clean-up crew discovered hot spots of "literally molten steel" more than a month after the collapse. Such persistent and intense residual heat, 70 feet below the surface, required the help of a professional. American Free Press asked Loizeaux about the report of molten steel on the site. "Yes," he said, "hot spots of molten steel in the basements." These incredibly hot areas were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels," Loizeaux said. The molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed," Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon. <<