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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cirrus who wrote (809)	12/7/2004 9:41:03 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 224662

That was a well written post, with some points being inarguable. We can only hope that a Constitution would prevent Shiites from joining with Iran or any such thing. In the end of course it is in the hands of the Iraqi people, be they Kurds, Sunnis, or Shiites. I honestly believe there is a pride among them for Iraq; nationalism has its good and bad points. Here it has the chance to bring people together.

To: cirrus who wrote (809)	12/7/2004 5:17:36 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224662

cirrus....."The situation in Bosnia remains calm and there is good reason to believe it can remain so.".... U.S. gave green light to terrorists in Bosnia Yugoslavia policy helped build base in Europe for Hezbollah, others April 24, 2002 The Dutch government has released a report that details the alliance between the United States and the Islamic effort to help Bosnian Muslims. The report determined that the United States provided a green light to groups on the State Department list of terrorist organizations to operate in Bosnia. This included the Lebanese-based Hezbollah. For the European Union, the U.S. effort marks a stain that calls into question Washington's war on terrorism. For nearly a decade, the Clinton administration helped Islamic insurgents aligned with Chechnya, Iran and Saudi Arabia destabilize the former Yugoslavia. The insurgents were allowed to bring weapons and explosives to Bosnia-Herzegovina and fight Serbs and their allies. The insurgents also were allowed to move further east to Kosovo. The United States was helped by a range of Muslim countries – from Iran and Saudi Arabia to Turkey. In short, the Clinton administration thought that the stronger the Muslims in Bosnia, the weaker the Serbian hold over Yugoslavia. Today, there are tens of thousands of Islamic insurgents throughout such countries as Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo, and many of them are moving west to Austria, Hungary, Germany and Switzerland. The U.S. Defense Department, which helped run the Islamic weapons smuggling operation in Bosnia, now faces a huge blowback problem as many Hezbollah operatives have moved to greener pastures in Western Europe. Over the last decade, Islamic extremism has increased its strength in such countries as Britain, France, Germany and Sweden to the point where their foreign policy is hampered. The Islamic blowback is believed to be vast. These days, Bosnia – under heavy Iranian influence – is regarded as too dangerous for senior U.S. officials to visit. Both Bosnia and Kosovo also serve as launching pads for terrorist attacks both in the West and in the Middle East. More than a few European countries, consequently, have turned their nose up at the Bush administration's appeal to take Islamic terrorism seriously. prisonplanet.com

To: cirrus who wrote (809)	12/8/2004 2:43:47 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224662

We had an election during the American Civil War, and we managed to solve our differences. The Iraqi people are going to vote on Jan 30, and with that vote will come nationalism. The "insurgents" or what ever you wish to call them, won't stop it. They will become the target of more and more Iraqi patriots who sign up to fight to establish Iraqi national sovereignty. Michael Moore had it all backwards. Iraqi nationals will be like the US minutemen of our revolution. The "insurgents" i.e. Saddamites, Al Queada Arab mercenaries will be run out of town on a rail.