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To: Lane3 who wrote (89642)	12/7/2004 9:11:32 PM
From: Whitebeard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793843

agree but I never would have thought of a lot of this if the ACLU hadn't brought it up -- Who'd have thought we'd be at each other's throats because of a creche in the town square? The ACLU exacerbated the problem, if indeed, there was one to begin with. The ACLU's purvey used to be criminal rights in the 60's and 70's, created, I think, to fight anti-semitism in the courts, because of the hanging of a fellow called Wise in So. Carolina in the early teens.

To: Lane3 who wrote (89642)	12/8/2004 7:18:36 PM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793843

The ACLU helped a group of SI posters quash a ridiculous subpoena a few years ago. As one of their lawyers explained to me, the organization doesn't really have a singular voice. It's a bunch of independent chapters spread out across the country. When you hear of "the ACLU" doing something silly, it's more likely a case that some individual lawyer got a wild hair, but you shouldn't fault the ACLU as a whole. It doesn't make the news when they do dozens of good things, only when one of the chapters does one stupid thing. "I used to support the ACLU, too, but no more. They have gone astray. Or maybe it's more apt to say that they've carried things too far and built up too much hostility both in themselves and in reactions against them."