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To: Alighieri who wrote (212910)	12/8/2004 11:36:22 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572918

Al, What does it say to you that the youngest voters have the weakest election participation? Rock the vote, Al. Party on. Save the trees and give peace a chance. Legalize marijuana. Balanced budget? Just tax the rich white man. That's the mentality of the "youngest voters" in a nutshell. Even those educated by the Ivy League often don't have a clue ... including this Ivy Leaguer. ;-) Tenchusatsu

To: Alighieri who wrote (212910)	12/8/2004 11:55:40 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572918

Troops grill Rumsfeld over Iraq Mr Rumsfeld insisted the troops would prevail US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld faced a grilling when he visited troops about to face combat in Iraq. Mr Rumsfeld was at Camp Buehring, Kuwait, to deliver a pep-talk to soldiers about the significance of the task ahead of them. But he faced tough questions from soldiers anxious about their equipment and how long they will stay. One soldier said troops were were forced to root through rubbish to reinforce their armoured vehicles. "Why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to uparmour our vehicles?" Army Spc Thomas Wilson asked. His question brought cheers from some 2,000 fellow soldiers - mostly Reserve and National Guard troops - assembled in an aircraft hangar for the question-and-answer session that followed Mr Rumsfeld's speech. Mr Rumsfeld paused, before asking him to repeat the question, AP news agency reported. Spc Wilson did so, adding, "we do not have proper armoured vehicles to carry with us". "You go to war with the army you have," Mr Rumsfeld replied, saying vehicle armour manufacturers were being exhorted to crank up production. Mr Rumsfeld added that vehicle armour might not provide total protection from the perils faced by soldiers in Iraq - such as roadside bombs. "You can have all the armour in the world on a tank and it can [still] be blown up," Mr Rumsfeld said. 'Unfair' treatment Mr Rumsfeld denied the charge from another soldier that active-duty troops were prioritised above Reserve and National Guard soldiers to receive the best military equipment. Another soldier asked how long the army would continue to use its powers to extend tours of duty - the so-called stop-loss policy which is currently estimated to be keeping some 7,000 soldiers in Iraq beyond their expected return date. Mr Rumsfeld said this was simply a fact of life for soldiers at time of war. "It's basically a sound principle, it's nothing new, it's been well understood" by soldiers, he said. Rumsfeld faced a sometimes sceptical reception "My guess is it will continue to be used as little as possible, but that it will continue to be used." At one point Mr Rumsfeld's voice broke as he delivered prepared comments to troops before the question-and-answer session. "You know there are those who see the violence taking place in Iraq... and they say we can't prevail," he said. "I see that violence and say we must win," he said.