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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (22351)	12/8/2004 1:33:07 PM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Why do you always come across with a chip on your shoulder. I can almost sense your containing yourself from lambasting me for what I wrote. If your Father served in Viet Nam you are much younger than me. Viet Nam was a war that I was intensely interested in. I read all of the books about it...that I could find. How about the interpretation by McNamara.. Does what he says make him a traitor ? I think that he was at last HONEST. I cannot remember all the books or the authors but they were great reading. Shein I think was one. A Bight and Shining LIE seems to ring a reluctant bell.Reluctant.. memory not serving me well. I have always enjoyed war stories..and true ones.. From Civil War on up. I do not buy all that you say in your post. A lot of the young men I worked with were trying to get Conscientious Objector status. Some were intending to flee to Canada. We all come from OUR OWN EXPERIENCES. You have bought into what I consider to be the propaganda that surrounded John Kerry throughout the campaign. Did you watch his performance on TV when he was on a program in which he explained his position.. This was when he was young. The position that he took and explained is my experience. It was a terrible time. There were movies made about returning veterans and what trauma they endured. I never thought ill of the men who went at their governments request to fight for us. I regret that they were spat upon... and this was not all of them... but the mood of the entire country was bitter... I do not agree with you that our failure there was caused by domestic policies that hindered our ability to fight that war. I think that the enemy we faced was tenacious,elusive and that the we were not used to a gorilla war anymore than we are used to fighting the war that is ensuing in Iraq... with the insurgents... The Cong were also fervent in their beliefs as are the insurgents. Rightly or wrongly, misguided as they may be they believe enough to fight for it to death. From the men I know who were in Viet Nam it was a quagmire. There were drugs used a lot and alto of men came home addicted.. Maybe your Father was different but from the men I knew and experienced they were glad to get out of there and not at all sorry to be home. They did not think the war was winnable.. The underground passages from which the Cong sprung. The use of the dark and night to stealthy creep up upon our units. Even the spraying of Agent Orange which later caused a lot of deaths among our veterans did not dissuade the Cong. Would an atom bomb have done the job ? Just so you know. The men who returned were heroes to me.