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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Suma who wrote (22364)	12/8/2004 2:27:28 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

"Why do you always come across with a chip on your shoulder. I can almost sense your containing yourself from lambasting me for what I wrote." What you wrote seemed to me to be dismissive of opinions from anyone who "wasn't there". What I wrote - the first part - was intended as a sarcastic way of pointing that out. "If your Father served in Viet Nam you are much younger than me." He was not young then - he also served in Korea. But yes, I'm younger than you. I'm not sure if you had a point in noting that, but whatever... "I do not buy all that you say in your post. A lot of the young men I worked with were trying to get Conscientious Objector status. Some were intending to flee to Canada." I don't think I said anything about people avoiding the draft. "We all come from OUR OWN EXPERIENCES. You have bought into what I consider to be the propaganda that surrounded John Kerry throughout the campaign." Here again, you are suggesting that I couldn't have a valid opinion on this because it wasn't based on "my own experiences". Are you suggesting that I couldn't have been aware at the time of what was going on - of the politics of the war? "From the men I know who were in Viet Nam it was a quagmire. There were drugs used a lot and alto of men came home addicted.. Maybe your Father was different ..." Umm, yes - he was. But again, that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. "but from the men I knew and experienced they were glad to get out of there and not at all sorry to be home." Again you are assuming views never expressed. "They did not think the war was winnable." If they were there in the latter years of the war (troop numbers were being cut back from '68 on, if memory serves), I can see them thinking that. We weren't trying to "win" - we were hoping the enemy would get tired of fighting and agree to a truce. "Just so you know. The men who returned were heroes to me." That's great, and not to be argumentative, but I doubt many care about being considered "heroes". Being appreciated for their sacrifice, perhaps. Not being called "baby-killers", certainly.