To: i-node who wrote (1276 ) 12/9/2004 12:57:59 AM From: WeisbrichA Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8420 "Remember, the target is automobiles". Says who? I did not limit anything to the discussion of installation in automobiles. Indeed the current discussion about Toyota dealers being able to install locally the devices from SIRI has been topic of many posts. Not mine. My thought is that these are personal devices that CAN be hard installed in autos but preferably (like in the TV commercial) installed as transportable and multi-functional audio sources. I investigated both of these company's products last year when Bob Brinker's financial program kept getting preempted by sports etc, on my local AM station as well as those over the web. The satellite device that I liked is made to hook up to my HOME stereo and can also hook up to my PC or laptop. Another device called the "Roady2"? does both in home, auto, or wherever beach. One of the companies even offered a boombox device. How many people live in their car? In NYC, Boston, LA, SF or Seattle. Don't most people work in some sort of office. My employees would not be allowed to listen to talk radio during customer service hours. Uninterrupted music, YES. You are concerned with an entertainment device. I am addressing interactive future personal appliances, bidi or not. A personal device is like my cell phone. Just like my watch and Blackberry. It goes with me no matter whatever vehicle I get into... even my brother-in-law's Semi. I just have to be in range. And, that range (coverage area) seems to always expand. Maybe not in Wyoming, but certainly on the coasts. We will continue to differ as to the time frame for a fully interactive personal "satellite" device. The key is Satellite because of your very valid point about universal geographical access. Right now wireless (with feed from satellite) has a broadcast range of about 40 Square miles with offered bandwidth of 1MB down and 368Kb up. With recent advances from Siemens, I believe very big "hot spots" will be big geography in the next couple of years. Thanks for your comments. RW