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To: Rambi who wrote (90129)	12/10/2004 10:28:06 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793809

That's wonderful to hear, Rambi! Hopefully, there are many school districts all over the US that are "in tune" with yours!! Re: The "sensibilities of nonbelievers".... there are many countries in the world who have good, and sometimes great music over the centuries. One doesn't have to be a "believer" to listen to, and appreciate, wonderful and quality music.

To: Rambi who wrote (90129)	12/11/2004 6:50:24 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793809

Then there are areas of the country like mine. Which is one of the red areas in one of the reddest of red states. 2004 Presidential election results, your state went 61%/38% Bush/Kerry. So much of this debate depends on preconceived notions that don't get challenged. There's nothing illegal about playing good quality classical music that has traditional meaning, including religious meaning, if the intention is simply to play good quality traditional music. But much of what's going on isn't about law, it's about feelings, and not wanting to hurt people unnecessarily. It's about culture. I doubt very much that the selection of music you describe would pass muster in a similar setting in Berkeley. I pick Berkeley because I know people who live there, so have been regaled with anecdotes about how Berkeleyans zig when others zag over American flags, Columbus Day, and the like. Different, yes. I realize that your point is that people should not be so touchy about feeling offense when none was intended. This is true. But it's also true that people should be careful about giving offense without realizing it. I have yet to see an example of "political correctness" that I thought was completely ridiculous. Maybe someone can jog my memory. Calling women "broads, split-tails, babes" - not OK in my book. Calling black people "boonies, spades, jiggaboos" - not OK in my book. Calling Hispanics "wetbacks, Jose, spics" - not OK in my book. Calling people with physical disabilities "cripples, gimps, geeks" - not OK in my book. Forcing Jewish kids to sing Christmas carols - not OK in my book. Nat Hentoff, the civil libertarian, a Jew, was forced to sing Christmas carols when he was a kid. Some would say, "what's the problem"? He resented it. That's the problem. Nat Hentoff is as sane as they come. If he had a problem with it, I have a problem with it.