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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: twmoore who wrote (9221)	12/11/2004 1:09:54 PM
From: Don Earl	Respond to of 20039

The official story on WTC 7 is fuel oil stored in the building caught fire and also melted steel. Silverman owned that building prior to making the deal on the rest of the complex. I'm not certain of the legal theory behind two events vs. one, but I gather it allows him to collect twice for the complex being destroyed once. I'm not certain why it doesn't stretch to WTC 7 being a third event, but I'm guessing the idea is it was destroyed as a result of the two crashes, the same as the rest of the buildings in the complex. Lawyers are strange animals, with a different world picture than normal people, so it's hard saying.

To: twmoore who wrote (9221)	12/12/2004 1:15:08 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

WTC 7: UNANSWERED QUESTIONS Re: What is the Official reason given for WTC#7 coming down? "Dunno." That's it, in a nutshell. That is what we have so far from FEMA, who in their official report on the collapse of WTC 7 stated that they could not determine the cause of the collapse. Bill Manning, the well-respected editor of Fire Engineering Magazine had this to say about the investigation as of the January, 2002 edition of that magazine: "Fire Engineering has good reason to believe that the "official investigation" blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers is a half-baked farce that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests, to put it mildly, lie far afield of full disclosure. Except for the marginal benefit obtained from a three-day, visual walk-through of evidence sites conducted by ASCE investigation committee members-described by one close source as a "tourist trip"-no one's checking the evidence for anything." tinyurl.com There is a report due soon from the NIST organization. And it promises to be pretty much the same crap as we got from FEMA. In fact, we're now calling this bureau the National Institute for Silly Theories. You may have seen the recent flap when an Underwriter's Laboratory manager emailed one of the key NIST investigators and pleaded for NIST to pay attention to the laws of physics rather the laws of politics. Oops. The UL guy was immediately fired. There are some sacred cows that official America simply refuses to discuss. The collapses of the WTC towers among them. *** Re: Was Silverstein the owner of that tower also and if so why was that not included in the lawsuit? I believe Don is correct about the "ownership(sic)" facts on WTC 7. Keep in mind that the ultimate owners of the WTC complex are the general public via the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Silverstein was the leaseholder, and not the owner. The loss suffered on 9/11 has, for the most part, been borne by the general public. What Silverstein is fighting over in court is insurance money which will be applied to the redevelopment of the WTC site, which Silverstein still controls. Silverstein actually stand to come out ahead on the deal, on a cash flow basis. He never paid much of anything for the acquisition of the lease, so he's not been finacially harmed to too great an extent. Of course, he'd argue it otherwise. HTH, Ray

To: twmoore who wrote (9221)	12/12/2004 7:40:27 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 20039

WTC 7 -- The Official Wording of "We Dunno."..... tinyurl.com May 1, 2002 (B) Complete 911 Timeline FEMA releases its report of the WTC collapses. It concludes, “with the information and time available, the sequence of events leading to the collapse of each tower could not be definitively determined.” On Building 7: “The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time.” [FEMA study, 5/1/02] fema.gov