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To: GST who wrote (153901)	12/13/2004 3:34:34 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"Denying that Iraqis have died on a massive scale simpy avoids facing the truth about the nature of our actions in Iraq -- you are entitled to any form of denial you wish. There are still those in Japan that deny their guilt for WWII. And of course there are those who still deny that Jews were killed by the millions in WWII. " What about all those germans and japanese we killed in WW2. Seems to me, its ok with you when enemy soldiers are killed (along with collateral civilian casualties) in what you judge to be a just war. So its all about whose ox is being gored. Since iraq doesnt fit your model we become war criminals in your eyes. Pacifists like Jacob are far more consistent. Being opposed to policies and questioning the result of such policies is just fine but to declare certain wars criminal based on your political beliefis is way to far to go, unless of course you are a pacifist. mike

To: GST who wrote (153901)	12/13/2004 4:22:25 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"A massive scale" is rather vague, but I didn't deny any such scale. Depending on what specifically you mean by the term I might agree that it is true. What I deny is that it has been established that 100,000+ Iraqi civilians have been killed by American or allied forces. Not only do I consider an assertion to be unproven I also consider it unlikely. But certainly thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed in the war, possibly tens of thousands. That is a lot of death as its a horrible thing. In the long run removing the Baathist regime will probably save more lives then it cost but that is no reason to cheer the lost of life or deny it. Tim