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To: Road Walker who wrote (27132)	12/14/2004 1:17:47 PM
From: Ausdauer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 60323

John, re: "MMC newly improved-super-mini-micro-turbo-jr." This is ridiculous. One thing the flash industry has succeeded at is avoiding unifying standards. I think the lack of unifying standards in a major downfall of the big players in the industry. Did SNDK's open CompactFlash standard unify the industry? Certainly not. OK, CF type I is the dominant digital film standard, but othewise we have just seen more and more splintering. I WONDER IF THE NEWER VARIETIES OF SD AND MMC ARE TRULY REMOVABLE? Even SNDK call Transflash them "semi-removable" in their PowerPoint presentations. Analysts may not have a clear picture of where Transflash should fit in the market. Is it the cellphones "harddrive" or just a glorified SIMM card? How does adding a 1 gigabyte Transflash enhance the handset performance? I mean, in 2007 Transflash is going consume a quantity of flash memory equal to all of worldwide 2004 flash production? That is what is suggested. And what application is going to force consumers to buy that as an add-on card? Storing re-runs of "Leave it to Beaver" or your phone for your next business trip? I mean, really. Is Transflash a concept looking for an application or what? And why do we need yet another mini-micro standard? Aus@semiremovable=embedded.com

To: Road Walker who wrote (27132)	12/14/2004 5:21:23 PM
From: Art Bechhoefer	Respond to of 60323

John, Aus, or anyone--Has there been any recent news on the collaboration between SNDK and M-Systems? I recall an earlier announcement that they were going to design some flash memory for cell phones. Yet another standard! But at least the SNDK-FLSH product would be proprietary. On the issue of the small size of removable cards for cell phones, I think the issue is not ease of removal but rather the ability to exchange a smaller capacity card for a larger one from time to time. When you're talking about 128MB, I can think of applications that would include not just imaging but carrying spreadsheets and other text files that might be useful on a business trip. But I still prefer the camera function separate from the cell phone, as these smaller cameras usually lack the resolution needed for good detail. I don't think we'll see the quality I get from my Canon S50 (5 mp resolution) in a cell phone for quite awhile. What's to prevent someone from making a cell phone that would accept common flash card formats and transmit the images? Do we have to make the cell phone and camera a single unit? Art@oldfashionedluddite.com