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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: sea_urchin who wrote (9319)12/15/2004 9:19:41 AM
From: LPS5  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
We, as you do, have a right to our opinion. Indeed, that is what this is all about -- the right we both have to express our opinion, even though we may disagree with each other.

Absolutely. You don't believe that I seek to prevent anyone from expressing their opinion...however ridiculous I might think theirs is...do you?

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So which do you prefer? LPS5 or e?



To: sea_urchin who wrote (9319)12/15/2004 9:24:08 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Searle,

Respectfully, I have to disagree with you here:

Re: As I see it, the basis of the polemic between you and most of the rest of us is that you persist in looking for an objective evaluation when all we can offer is a subjective one.

LPS5 is merely being obstinately argumentative and protective of the dominant myths of American elites.

On the other hand, I completely disagree that we are merely offering subjective evaluations here. There is nothing in the least bit subjective about stating that the Kean-Zelikow Report utterly failed to mention that a 600' skyscraper crashed to earth at 5:20 PM on 9/11/01. Both the omission and the collapse are objective facts. It is not subjective for us to learn here that ASTM A-36 steel melts at approximately 2,800 degrees and that the greatest potential temperature that jet fuel can burn at in ambient air is 1,520 degrees Fahrenheit.

Those are only two examples of hundreds of objective facts that we've discussed on this thread, with no assistance whatsoever from LPS5, who appears to be capable of (or interested in) little more than vituperation and obstruction.



To: sea_urchin who wrote (9319)12/15/2004 9:26:49 AM
From: LPS5  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
As I see it, the basis of the polemic between you and most of the rest of us is that you persist in looking for an objective evaluation when all we can offer is a subjective one.

That is a concise, and accurate, encapsulation of our differences of perspective.

I agree completely, and I'm pleased that someone besides me is identifying this critical difference in investigative focus.

Well put, Searle; unfortunately, I doubt your fellow conspiracy theorists will take kindly to your having noted this.

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